Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[I*R*A]

It would be mercy upon those in the world that would be witness and take heed that they were mercifully spared.

A billion may be a great number in human mathematics but not in divine science.

The land over there is conducive to rapid growth. Despite being one and a half billion people, India is not even genetically diverse than any central African country. So purely in terms of genetics, mass destruction won't be anything new.

You are failing to account for, they are oppressed, poor, exploited, misguided, they seek refuge in anything and make bagwan of anything out of their hopelessness. Behind the bubble of shinning india there is millions of helpless illiterate hewan who deserve a chance at insaniyat. They do not know, they did not get the chance yet.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

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[El Sidd]

He has tears in his eyes on van incident in balochistan. Never seen anyone in Musharraf era having tears in eyes. I know what pak army is facing right now? Three hostile enemies from three different sides. Plea to afghans etc. question is why we are in this situation? How to change it? What’s necessary? I have explained in detail in other threads that we have to cross border and annex some territories to bring peace in pakistan. Both Iran and Afghanistan are supporting Indian raw openly. We can change dynamics by crossing the border. It will cost us lives but this is the cost of peace. Let enemy fear. Whatever I said about india is true. Time has come to change policies and start some kind of our own kargil bh declaring Kashmir as part of pakistan and china etc.

I won't be bothered with the Persians. They will fall in line despite all their noise.

The barbarity of India's war on Pakistan would reduce anyone to tears. We have a very weak economic situation and must rely on a regional response to the Indian menace. Hence the innocent appeal to the conscience of like minded nations. The military has been quite honest in her approach that we face an enemy which is much more resourceful and greater in numbers.

Next step would be to round up different figureheads and do what Musharraf did in 2002 and ask for Islamic Ideology Council to declare defensive jihad obligatory to all Citizens.

There's nothing else that can be done. Water is the essence of life, if we cannot have it, we would chose an honorable way of dying.

You come from Karachi, which sits where the Indus meets the ocean. An average Karachiite spends hours trying to source water. Now imagine what farmer communities would face in Sindh and Punjab when things would go dry. We can have desalination plants, drip irrigation and whatnot. First lets have a war

 

[Vapnope]

why do they need those, if no s400 were destroyed and Rafaele were very effective?
though, before j35, Pak will get PL 17 and PL 21, its all over the news.....

Remember i am arguing with a hindutva troll lol

 

[Arsalan45]

Agreed. The rules based order is dead and buried. Everyone NEEDS to fight for their own interests and survival. Pakistan needs to do what is in it's best interests and not give a damn what the rest of the world says or thinks. A lot of good that did for the Palestinians in Gaza.

Yes this is what I want and this is what country needs. Has UN saved gaza? Palestine is about to get removed from the map of the world. Do world cares? Nobody cares. It’s our war. Let’s fight this war on enemy territory which we must claim as ours which is Kashmir. We must declare Kashmir as integral part of pakistan and china and let’s celebrate this day. Give sweets to people and show all this on media. This will create a psychological pressure in india. India knows Chinese factor and is scared. Why jaishsnkar is begging for joint operation of different militaries under one in realms to fight terrorism? Because he wants Pakistani isolation and many in india realizes Chinese factor after this phalgam drama.

So why not drag china in Kashmir dispute? It’s in our interest. It’s in Chinese interest. We must declare Kashmir as part of pakistan and china and both countries should work together and should give a threatening statement that they are considering military action in Kashmir etc. this will make india nervous and they literally have no Allie’s nearby to save themselves on time. By the time United States send it’s army, it will be too late for india.

Same with Iran and Afghanistan as well. Cross border annex parts. Annex wakhan corridor. Shut down all trade to Afghanistan and stop all trucks. They will beg us to start trade within weeks. We should tell them to take action against ttp or pakistan will cross border etc.

Same with Iran as well. I like coastal areas of nearby sistan balochistan. We should cross border. Fire some ballistic missiles on irgc and bla and annex parts of irani balochistan and we should always make Americans happy by doing action inside Iran. Win win for us.

There is no time to sit back. Declare Kashmir as integral part of pakistan and china so that we can start our own kargil against india and obviously we will have excuse that it’s our part etc.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Remember i am arguing with a hindutva troll lol

if s400 cant defend India, then, nothing can, sorry.......

 

[El Sidd]

You are failing to account for, they are oppressed, poor, exploited, misguided, they seek refuge in anything and make bagwan of anything out of their hopelessness. Behind the bubble of shinning india there is millions of helpless illiterate hewan who deserve a chance at insaniyat. They do not know, they did not get the chance yet.

When Ad and Thamud were destroyed, there were millions of those who went along with them so with the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah.

A drowning Pharoah once thought that too that mercy shall triumph over wrath. He drowned.

 

[Arsalan45]

I won't be bothered with the Persians. They will fall in line despite all their noise.

The barbarity of India's war on Pakistan would reduce anyone to tears. We have a very weak economic situation and must rely on a regional response to the Indian menace. Hence the innocent appeal to the conscience of like minded nations. The military has been quite honest in her approach that we face an enemy which is much more resourceful and greater in numbers.

Next step would be to round up different figureheads and do what Musharraf did in 2002 and ask for Islamic Ideology Council to declare defensive jihad obligatory to all Citizens.

There's nothing else that can be done. Water is the essence of life, if we cannot have it, we would chose an honorable way of dying.

You come from Karachi, which sits where the Indus meets the ocean. An average Karachiite spends hours trying to source water. Now imagine what farmer communities would face in Sindh and Punjab when things would go dry. We can have desalination plants, drip irrigation and whatnot. First lets have a war

Sir I care. Money is not a problem as far as china is there. What we need is to become brave and aggressive. We are a country who has kulbhushan yadav in jail but we can’t execute him. It needs courage and power. You must understand that Musharraf army was different from this army. No offense. He was like a warrior. Gd bakshi cried in one video when he was describing kargil war. Same gd bakshi now threatening your existence.

Time has changed. India has become more powerful and powerful countries usually eats nearby peaceful countries. We are too peaceful. We have seen how abhinandan got away within one day and there was a woman standing beside him when he was about to be handed over to Indian officials on the border gate. A woman? Really? This is not us sir.

We need aggressive policies and a group of think tanks that reports directly to pakistan army. This think tank should be responsible to devise a plan to break india into pieces. All this is not possible without china. China is our friend. China knows it will be alone in the region if pakistan vanishes and india capturing Pakistani lands put Chinese under threat.

Time to revise strategies. Hurt enemy inside enemy territory. Go out. Don’t come back. If you don’t come back, you will be called martyr. If come back then called ghazi.

Pakistani civilians needs military training as well. We will realize it later but for sure.

 

[I*R*A]

When Ad and Thamud were destroyed, there were millions of those who went along with them so with the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah.

A drowning Pharoah once thought that too that mercy shall triumph over wrath. He drowned.

Those were pre Rehmat ul lil almeen era.

We can fight a just war for their freedom to afford them a chance.

 

[El Sidd]

Sir I care. Money is not a problem as far as china is there. What we need is to become brave and aggressive. We are a country who has kulbhushan yadav in jail but we can’t execute him. It needs courage and power. You must understand that Musharraf army was different from this army. No offense. He was like a warrior. Gd bakshi cried in one video when he was describing kargil war. Same gd bakshi now threatening your existence.

Time has changed. India has become more powerful and powerful countries usually eats nearby peaceful countries. We are too peaceful. We have seen how abhinandan got away within one day and there was a woman standing beside him when he was about to be handed over to Indian officials on the border gate. A woman? Really? This is not us sir.

We need aggressive policies and a group of think tanks that reports directly to pakistan army. This think tank should be responsible to devise a plan to break india into pieces. All this is not possible without china. China is our friend. China knows it will be alone in the region if pakistan vanishes and india capturing Pakistani lands put Chinese under threat.

Time to revise strategies. Hurt enemy inside enemy territory. Go out. Don’t come back. If you don’t come back, you will be called martyr. If come back then called ghazi.

Pakistani civilians needs military training as well. We will realize it later but for sure.

We try inshallah

Those were pre Rehmat ul lil almeen era.

We can fight a just war for their freedom to afford them a chance.

Wars are not fought to secure other's freedom but to ensure one's own. We war for own salvation and survival.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

There are no diplomatic means. The time for diplomacy is long over with the new regime and mindset of the Indian masses. It's not a territorial dispute or dispute over water resources that is driving the India Pakistan conflict. It's an ancient religious conflict 1500 years old as President Trump very correctly said. The Hindu masses (of India not Nepal), fed on revivalist history have been worked into a mass hysteria seeking vengeance for a perceived 1500 years old historical wrongs inflicted by Muslims.
- The Indian media call ( supported by the government) is for complete annihilation of all Muslims from the subcontinent, which includes depopulation of Pakistan and Bangladesh.
- India is planning the biggest mass slaughter in human history that will be second only in terms of proportion to the annihilation of the Neanderthals or the complete extermination of the native Tasmanian population.

Unfortunately 90% of our people in Pakistan fail to realize that we are in the early stages of an existential conflict that has no diplomatic or peaceful resolution.

I've been saying the above for years, even on the old forum. Thing is, the vast majority of Pakistanis cannot envision, comprehend or believe in an evil so severe that calls for the total genocide, annihilation of the Pakistani

There are no diplomatic means. The time for diplomacy is long over with the new regime and mindset of the Indian masses. It's not a territorial dispute or dispute over water resources that is driving the India Pakistan conflict. It's an ancient religious conflict 1500 years old as President Trump very correctly said. The Hindu masses (of India not Nepal), fed on revivalist history have been worked into a mass hysteria seeking vengeance for a perceived 1500 years old historical wrongs inflicted by Muslims.
- The Indian media call ( supported by the government) is for complete annihilation of all Muslims from the subcontinent, which includes depopulation of Pakistan and Bangladesh.
- India is planning the biggest mass slaughter in human history that will be second only in terms of proportion to the annihilation of the Neanderthals or the complete extermination of the native Tasmanian population.

Unfortunately 90% of our people in Pakistan fail to realize that we are in the early stages of an existential conflict that has no diplomatic or peaceful resolution.

I've been saying the above for years, even on the old forum. Thing is, the vast majority of Pakistanis cannot envision, comprehend or believe in an evil so severe that calls for the total genocide, annihilation of the Pakistani people. This is what all indians believe in.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Yes this is what I want and this is what country needs. Has UN saved gaza? Palestine is about to get removed from the map of the world. Do world cares? Nobody cares. It’s our war. Let’s fight this war on enemy territory which we must claim as ours which is Kashmir. We must declare Kashmir as integral part of pakistan and china and let’s celebrate this day. Give sweets to people and show all this on media. This will create a psychological pressure in india. India knows Chinese factor and is scared. Why jaishsnkar is begging for joint operation of different militaries under one in realms to fight terrorism? Because he wants Pakistani isolation and many in india realizes Chinese factor after this phalgam drama.

So why not drag china in Kashmir dispute? It’s in our interest. It’s in Chinese interest. We must declare Kashmir as part of pakistan and china and both countries should work together and should give a threatening statement that they are considering military action in Kashmir etc. this will make india nervous and they literally have no Allie’s nearby to save themselves on time. By the time United States send it’s army, it will be too late for india.

Same with Iran and Afghanistan as well. Cross border annex parts. Annex wakhan corridor. Shut down all trade to Afghanistan and stop all trucks. They will beg us to start trade within weeks. We should tell them to take action against ttp or pakistan will cross border etc.

Same with Iran as well. I like coastal areas of nearby sistan balochistan. We should cross border. Fire some ballistic missiles on irgc and bla and annex parts of irani balochistan and we should always make Americans happy by doing action inside Iran. Win win for us.

There is no time to sit back. Declare Kashmir as integral part of pakistan and china so that we can start our own kargil against india and obviously we will have excuse that it’s our part etc.

AGREED. We need the WILL to do the above. Problem is that the elite in Pakistan still believe in the rules based order even though it is dead. After seeing g what has happened to the Gazans and Palestinians, I now firmly believe that Pakistan needs to go rogue in order to secure our interests.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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[Whirling_dervesh]

I am arguing with an indian (works in a local transportation company in India) who is saying they are going to get s500 and su 57 way before our chinese junk of J35. He is laughing and mocking me. Lol

I hope they do more showpiece items to down. I really hope they do, didnt they reject su57 in 2017?

 

[Arsalan45]

AGREED. We need the WILL to do the above. Problem is that the elite in Pakistan still believe in the rules based order even though it is dead. After seeing g what has happened to the Gazans and Palestinians, I now firmly believe that Pakistan needs to go rogue in order to secure our interests.

Hell yeah sir. Cross the border. Let enemy fear. They destroyed your mosque. Modi openly said that they will target pak military next time and that shaheen missile story was basically to allow Indians to fire nuclear missile next time without even pakistan launching first. Dangerous and criminal mindset of Indians can only be countered through dangerous and aggressive actions on the ground. I urge pak military to declare Kashmir as integral part of pakistan and china and send official notification to india that their raja dahir story is null and void and they should vacate Indian side of Kashmir otherwise they will be responsible for any future action.