Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I hope I am wrong. Just want Chinese tanks at the right time and before it’s too late. There is a hint of another round of clash before this winter war. Indians are very clever and now they are emotionally attached to our Kashmir which is unbelievable. So they factored out one thing during this conflict but not the other. They will bombard Paf with brahmos and likely ground them so Paf factor is now gone for them. It’s now our strategy to find ways to make sure that Paf will remain operational despite brahmos strikes.

Chinese factor. They are worried about joint Chinese pakistani counterattack. This is why they will start it in winter so that no help from Chinese will reach on time specially manpower.

I have to admit, your strategic thinking is excellent. The indians will try to take out our fighter jets while they are grounded in order to nullify our greatest assets.

Do work in a field related to computer science or the military?

 

[rishi7887]

its not a religion(hindutva), its a mental disease.

Hindutva ideology isn't supported by the Indian masses. Remember, the BJP which is the largest party had only 36% votes and this was despite them having control over India's institutions and targeting political rivals.

 

[El Sidd]

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Modi is getting desperate. Calling for Pak youth to come out against state. Basically shows Indian pyosp target was PTI supporters….

I think those who played host to Javed Akhtar assured him that youth wants liberation and Modi would be helped from inside Pakistan.

 

[rishi7887]

I have to admit, your strategic thinking is excellent. The indians will try to take out our fighter jets while they are grounded in order to nullify our greatest assets.

Do work in a field related to computer science or the military?

There won't be any winter war, unless there's a major terror attack in India. India cannot militarily take back Kashmir. It's defence planners and generals aren't that delusional. The costs would be too high and they don't want a full blown war with Pakistan. They know it very well. If there's a terror attack, there will probably be a skirmish like 2019 or 2025. No one has the appetite to go for a full blown war.

If you look at the 2025 operation the strategic objective of India was to escalate the costs to Pakistan so as to deter it from supporting what Pakistan considers militant groups and India terror groups. Did they meet that strategic objective ? I'd say no, since the narrative within Pakistan has been one of victory over India. Pakistan have demonstrated great Air to Air capability and this has increased its military morale.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

And? Their goal is to divide Pakistan, and psyops is a big part of that.

They'll try to exploit internal divisions within Pakistan.

Just ignore them.

When PTI baghora journalist say people will welcome Indian army, it gives likes of Modi wrong idea.

Now he is pissed because their attack backfired and united Pakistan. Now Field Marshal have free hand to go against any terrorist, the ongoing operation against BLA now is good exemple.

 

[Bilal]

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Modi is getting desperate. Calling for Pak youth to come out against state. Basically shows Indian pyosp target was PTI supporters….

They are targeting because they know they are the core of Pakistan. What would he gain by targeting PMLN, PPP, MQM supporters.

He is literally threatening them with death, because during the standoff they pulled his pants down on information and psychological warfare fronts.

 

[Yasser76]

They are targeting because they know they are the core of Pakistan. What would he gain by targeting PMLN, PPP, MQM supporters.

He is literally threatening them with death, because during the standoff they pulled their pants down on information and psychological warfare fronts.

If there was ever a video that got Pakistan and Pakistanis so wrong it is this.

This nails it for me. Modi is finished. It is lose/lose for him now. India stands humiliated militarily and diplomatically and he is finished at the next election or he tries another madcap military venture and gets his arse handed to him on a silver platter for the third time in a row.

Either way. Bye bye.

 

[PK781]

I am worried for right reasons. I don’t trust you. I know what india is planning. The basic tactic of enemy is to lie and to tell its victim that they aren’t thinking about invasion. I know you guys are clever.

Exactly what i've been thinking. Our military and political leadership missed a golden chance. At the very minimum they should've destroyed all the dams india built on ALL OUR RIVERS. Should've let the water flow to Pak freely.
Eventhough the PAF and PA ended up winning and celebrating, but we all know its not over.

India literally announced that they will shut/hold our water and make Pakistan extinct. Nobody in the world, including the WB or UN, or anyone gave a shit about what they said and will do. Our rives are already dried up mostly, our Tarbela and Mangla dams reaching dead levels and shortage of clean/safe drinking water in many cities is a BIG problem nobody seems to be caring about. Because all of the "elites" have their mineral waters available so they dont care.
I know from relatives in punjab that water issue is becoming a big problem even in areas which never used to have problems before. But our leaders are busy in political bickering in talk shows between pti, ppp and pmln. Priorities are messed up
We showed "restraints" and "dont want to escalate" and now they(india) know that our side is always about restraint and not escalating. But they when come next time, won't be restraint and will use their full might to cause us max damage and chaos/destruction. And trust me, not many countries will care other than virtue signalling or they may try to SELL US their weapons and drones instead.

There can really be no "restraints" next time. But the water/dams issue is highly important and if our people just sit around for 10 yrs without any action, then Pakistan will be dry. Missed a golden opportunity when our JF17 and J10C had clear area to strike all their dams and restore ALL OUR RIVERS but they did not go for it. Now they(enemy) will build on the remaining rivers and they know nobody will give a shit about it other than issuing some statements. Is the World Bank going to personally come and stop the work and remove any constructed barriers ??
We missed opportunity and now we will again wait for their strikes once again, they will again launch war on us because we did not cripple them at all, they're still running on full throttle (their economy, their business, their hubs and their propaganda campaigns). Our being reactive is going to cost us dearly.
Nobody tells india to show restraint, such calls are only fielded by our own Pakistani decision-makers, they all come tell us only. They let india do whatever the **** it wants, everytime. This infuriates me each time they do this and get away with it.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Exactly what i've been thinking. Our military and political leadership missed a golden chance. At the very minimum they should've destroyed all the dams india built on ALL OUR RIVERS. Should've let the water flow to Pak freely.
Eventhough the PAF and PA ended up winning and celebrating, but we all know its not over.

India literally announced that they will shut/hold our water and make Pakistan extinct. Nobody in the world, including the WB or UN, or anyone gave a shit about what they said and will do. Our rives are already dried up mostly, our Tarbela and Mangla dams reaching dead levels and shortage of clean/safe drinking water in many cities is a BIG problem nobody seems to be caring about. Because all of the "elites" have their mineral waters available so they dont care.
I know from relatives in punjab that water issue is becoming a big problem even in areas which never used to have problems before. But our leaders are busy in political bickering in talk shows between pti, ppp and pmln. Priorities are messed up
We showed "restraints" and "dont want to escalate" and now they(india) know that our side is always about restraint and not escalating. But they when come next time, won't be restraint and will use their full might to cause us max damage and chaos/destruction. And trust me, not many countries will care other than virtue signalling or they may try to SELL US their weapons and drones instead.

There can really be no "restraints" next time. But the water/dams issue is highly important and if our people just sit around for 10 yrs without any action, then Pakistan will be dry. Missed a golden opportunity when our JF17 and J10C had clear area to strike all their dams and restore ALL OUR RIVERS but they did not go for it. Now they(enemy) will build on the remaining rivers and they know nobody will give a shit about it other than issuing some statements. Is the World Bank going to personally come and stop the work and remove any constructed barriers ??
We missed opportunity and now we will again wait for their strikes once again, they will again launch war on us because we did not cripple them at all, they're still running on full throttle (their economy, their business, their hubs and their propaganda campaigns). Our being reactive is going to cost us dearly.
Nobody tells india to show restraint, such calls are only fielded by our own Pakistani decision-makers, they all come tell us only. They let india do whatever the **** it wants, everytime. This infuriates me each time they do this and get away with it.

The indians want to do to us what the israelis are doing to the Gazans and Palestinians. The indians also have the full backing of the west, america, israel and russia. indians are not capable of doing this directly so they want to commit genocide against Pakistan via stopping our water supply. Whatever happens, Pakistan will have to fight india to the death. The next war between Pakistan and india will be a war of racial genocide. Nothing else.

 

[PK781]

Hindutva ideology isn't supported by the Indian masses. Remember, the BJP which is the largest party had only 36% votes and this was despite them having control over India's institutions and targeting political rivals.

Thats a bit hard to believe when the entire indian media, its politicians, its retired and active military personnel and even the common people interviewed , as well as those on Social Media are saying the same thing, they want war and destruction of Pakistan and Pakistanis. So its actually in full swing for their plan of "akhand bharat" via operation sindoor, which obviously, is still ongoing.

Perhaps the small minority which doesnt want hindutva extremist ideology is more like 1-2%. Rest of them are all longing for a big war and want to see cities and people of Pak blown up like Gaza and Syria, etc.....they love the BJP/RSS for any conflicts with Pakistan. They won't even tolerate any muslims within india for that matter, their own "3rd class citizens".

Therefore its hard to believe, because its pretty obvious.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Thats a bit hard to believe when the entire indian media, its politicians, its retired and active military personnel and even the common people interviewed , as well as those on Social Media are saying the same thing, they want war and destruction of Pakistan and Pakistanis. So its actually in full swing for their plan of "akhand bharat" via operation sindoor, which obviously, is still ongoing.

Perhaps the small minority which doesnt want hindutva extremist ideology is more like 1-2%. Rest of them are all longing for a big war and want to see cities and people of Pak blown up like Gaza and Syria, etc.....they love the BJP/RSS for any conflicts with Pakistan. They won't even tolerate any muslims within india for that matter, their own "3rd class citizens".

Therefore its hard to believe, because its pretty obvious.

We Pakistanis also need to develop a genocidal racial hatred of indians like they do for us.

 

[PK781]

BTW, anyone in the military or has sources that can actually give us any hints of what the actual red lines are, related to the IWT?? Will they wait for all the rivers to dry up? Summer is here and dams r at dead levels. Agriculture is suffering, and there was recent news about water-rationing in Islamabad/Rawalpindi already.
How much further are they going to wait? Where's the so-called red lines bhai loag? Can someone enlighten us civilians too

 

[Yasser76]

We Pakistanis also need to develop a genocidal racial hatred of indians like they do for us.

No never. That is not what Pakistani should ever become. Ever.

We are not Israel or India. We are Pakistanis and we are Muslims

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

No never. That is not what Pakistani should ever become. Ever.

We are not Israel or India. We are Pakistanis and we are Muslims

I used to believe that. But you have to be aggressive and genocidal to survive and win in this world. I no longer believe in humanity, peace or pacifism. The Palestinians made this mistake and they are now paying the price. They are about to be permanently wiped off the face off the earth and NO-ONE in the world cares or is going to help them. IF Pakistanis are not careful, then the same fate awaits us. We need to start developing the same hatred towards indians like the israelis have for the Palestinians. It's either them or us. The next war between Pakistan and india will be a racial genocidal war.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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