Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

We need to make a no fly zone til dehli… like we closed our air space… the pain should be felt across the yindustan
It’s not about us saying anything. It about whispers to be in the global business air about the investment climate in India. Overt actions don’t loom credible and are unsustainable in the long term. We just need the slow dip of Modi’s own folly falling on his business prospect; slowing down Indian growth just enough to limit their options.
 
Actually we hit them hard in 2016 too. In fact I believe that we showed more restraint in 2019 and 2025

18 soldiers killed, 2 beheaded, one captured by Pakistan troops after surgical strikes

27 Pakistani soldiers were also killed in same period as per interview of Pakistan defence minister.
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The real deterrence which ensures that Modi & Co are perpetually in a "Gabbar Singh" mode....


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This time they may target army HQs and airforce directly. Pakistan must be ready to retaliate. Missiles will fly from both sides

Pakistan on other hand is also provoking them by showing videos and telling name of pilots ( I haven't seen any new video though) 90% old Videos of 6-10 may. But naming of pilots is something new
Why they not show the woman pilot they captured
 
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Not every Indian supports the idea of starving 250 million people of fresh water. That would be catastrophic—morally, regionally, and environmentally. I count myself among those who believe that long-term peace and sustainability must prevail over punitive instincts.


However, our neighbors in Pakistan must also understand: these developments around water and infrastructure aren't spontaneous—they're deliberate and strategic. India has begun laying the groundwork. The question is: will the Pakistani establishment recognize this shift before it's too late, or will it fall into the "boiling frog" syndrome—acting only when the damage is irreversible?


Let’s also acknowledge the changing balance of power through an economic lens.


  • In 2016, when India conducted the surgical strikes, our GDP stood at $2.16 trillion. Pakistan's GDP was $313 billion.
  • In 2019, during the Balakot air strikes, India's GDP had grown to $2.9 trillion, while Pakistan’s was $320 billion.
  • Now, in 2025, following Operation SINDOOR, India's GDP is at $4.19 trillion. Pakistan’s stands at approximately $380 billion.

The takeaway is clear: with each crisis, India returns to the table stronger—economically and militarily. It can afford the risks of escalation and strategic signaling. The question Pakistan must ask itself is—can it match that trajectory? Can it bear the costs of continued brinkmanship?
First its pretty illogical india cant physically or technically hold the west three rivers it is gigantic task to divert even some of those waters

The East three rivers it already did

Lastly what kind if idiot thinks that Pakistanis wont go to war before being "starved"

In short term or all on wars GDPs don't matter ..few missiles in delhi and indian public will beg for cease fire...that was Pakistan mistake not firing a few blastic missles on delhi after india did..india ran too quickly to USA for ceasefire when it got hit by HIMARS/FATEH
 
No, in all seriousness, Indian or any military power never uses the same operations name twice for operational security. The names are revealed when the operations are underway.

India has diverted from Western names for operations relying on names with cultural ( Hindu) mythological, and religious connotations. Pakistan is in the same mode though it still uses Western names like Swift Retort.

The names for follow up operations would be linked to the same theme of married women devoted to their husbands.
So the new names India could come up with would be :
-Operation Mangalsutra - " Mangalsutra " is a collar necklace of beads worn by Hindu women signifying a married status like Sindoor, a vermilion powder smeared in the parting of the hair,
- Operation Bindi .. "Bindi" is the multicolored 10 mm diameter disc shaped sticker that Hindu women wear in the center of their foreheads which signifies marriage.
- Operation Karwa Chauth This is related again to women worshipping their husbands on a certain day of the year and staring at their husbands through a flour seive,

Or like Sindoor the names could once again be about adornment.
- Operation Kaajal, Operation Mehndi , Operation Lipstick..

Getting serious again.
I hope Pakistan picks a real nice name for its counter operations. General Aslam Beg once picked the name
Zarb e Momin ( The Strike of the Faithful),
A nice name would be Tazkirey Yazdan ..nice secular and powerful. To get the enemy riled up we could name our operation But-Shikan,
Theirs need to be named Ops Satti.
 
The U.S.-led, undemocratic world order is collapsing. In the past, the U.S. could manage or influence major global conflicts, but that is no longer the case. The wars in Ukraine and Palestine have exposed deep divisions. Europe and America's support for Israel in its war against the Palestinian people has severely damaged its global credibility, especially in the Global South. These events have accelerated the decline of U.S. dominance and signaled a shift toward a more multipolar world.
So you will see many conflicts and wars in coming years until this world order settle down the new world order. It is a requirement for New world order. there are chances that world maps will change again. The new countries will rise


We haven't heard United Nations assembly name anymore because it was pivot to run American lead world order This is a great example that American lead word order is falling
 
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What happened to this heli on 8th? Was it self score again? Any news??
Any conspiracy about it? I’d believe because helicopter crashes aren’t very common… and this one gapped on 8th when both side’s drones were crossing over each other’s side..
 
There were 42 Pakistani pilots against around 90 Indian pilots, as some Indian jets were carrying two crew members. Despite being outnumbered, the 42 Pakistani jets and their pilots dominated the battlefield. However, we must continue to invest in and upgrade our military assets. Next time, the Indians may involve Western personnel in their operation rooms, as a defeat for Pakistan would be seen as a major blow not only to the emerging world order but also to the broader Muslim world.
 
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Here it is- first official reaction of France

There is fog of war- there is a war of misinformation
We don't know what happened. We have no information
We are studying the situatiom

It's as simple as that. But sure some poster (like @TopGun786 ) will now pull teeth to make it look like he said 20 Rafale went down.


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Notice, my dear Indian friend, how you defaulted to 20 Rafales, when Pakistan is claiming 3 Rafales.

This is known as the hyperbole fallacy. You deliberately suggest such an excessive number was claimed in order to discredit the claim of any number, even an entirely plausible and verifiable number of 3.

We understand your coping strategy. It is quite amateurish and I have seen it deployed by your friends on this very forum.
 

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