Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Vapnope]

IAF shoot down or destroy?

They only thing they downed was their own Mi17v5. PAF Inki auqat se bahir hai !

 

[Pradotlc]

 

[Vapnope]

India: We shot down several PAF planes, destroyed 20% PAF, killed hundreds of militants.
People: But where is the proof?

Meanwhile India: The **** do i know !

 

[CSAW]

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"I think whats important is Not the jets being down,
But why they were down.
Good part is that we are able to understand the tactical mistake we did..."

 

[Vapnope]

Good part is that we are able to understand the tactical mistake we did..."

Mistake: Facing a way smaller Airforce in reality, not in bollywood.

Imagine having 10times the budget of PAF and then avoiding PAF when shit hit the fan. Any self respecting chief and officers would have resigned right away if that was the case anywhere.

 

[Baibers_1260]

International media was taken to Balakot after about 2 months. I am sure India will organize a media visit to all those bases in coming months.


A rocket artillery with 300KG + of warhead. And we are supposed to believe it will not leave big craters in the bases or where ever they hit.. If these had hit the airbases or military bases, damage would have surely been seen in satellite images.

Show us damage like this on Pakistani military bases

https://www.twz.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/maxar-engels-overview.jpg

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[Meengla]

Yes, even a hit on a military comms tower in Delhi, with no personnel killed or even hurt would have sent a signal, that the war can come straight to their door as well.

And also a signal to those who may be planning to setup iPhone factories, BPO initiatives, manufacturing, off shoring to India at the expense of China. 'Capital' is extremely risk averse. It is like water which would always find the shortest, easiest path, which would be a downhill path, thanks to gravity and the gravity of the Capital is stability and security for profit.
Indian planners in last 10 years under Modi, while fantasizing about some civilizational revival of a Hindu era, didn't really realize they were living in a glass house and throwing stones to some very powerful neighbors. I can't think of any dumber foreign policy in modern history by a major nation than India's under Modi in last 10 years. This policy has veritably undone the hard work by various Indian govts of the previous half century.

 

[Gripen9]

The gist of it…

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[Vapnope]

Most Indians: But where is the proof? Where is theq proof?

 

[Meengla]

As I had mentioned in last two days--maybe today--about the primacy of English language and hinted at the Pakistani state itself is propping up new English language channels, I am also noticing channels with Hindi/Sanskrit text on videos' thumbnails. I believe Pakistani state is finally waking up to the importance of using social media to reach out to a wider audience.
Edit! BAD EXAMPLE. HAHAH!

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[Vapnope]

The gist of it…

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Takla back at it again, pedaling the same bollywood msala of pAkiStaN fACeD hEAvy loSses. Like yeah dude PL15s arent cheap, but we gotta use the pesticides to kill some pests anyway so yeah it was heavy loss on our pocket while Indian air farce was eventually going to crash the jets anyway.

 

[CSAW]

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"I think whats important is Not the jets being down,
But why they were down.
Good part is that we are able to understand the tactical mistake we did..."

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[Baibers_1260]

In my view his response was a no response. Because it was so non specific that it was not carrying any information. The only claim he made is that IAF has shot Pakistani jet(s). Thats it.

Why a "non-specific, no response " when he could have given accurate news about Indian victories? In 2019 the IAF gave a very "specific response" on the downing of an F-16 Block 52 D, piloted by a certain Fl.Lt. Shazazuddin. So it was that specific, type, model, and name of the pilot. What's different this time.

The bigger point that I wanted to make is, he did NOT specify F-16s or any specific jets. Any god damn jet fighter can be said as "hi tech".

"Any god damn jet fighter can be said as ",hi tech". Agree with you there.. "any god damn jet fighter " such as the Mig 21 "Bison" or the De Havilland Vampire.

As far as "Other claims" go, I doubt there is a "state approved media". There is Indian media but then those are privately owned mostly. And I personally do not take them seriously. If you want to trust them, they were saying Indian forces are attacking Islamabad. So, they are not even worth talking about.

Would you classify your Doordarshan as privately owned ?

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Well, most of international media is saying that all damage inflicted to bases in 2025 conflict was done by India, on Pakistani bases and there is no evidence of Indian bases suffering any significant damage.

Define significant damage and what exactly was hit
Show damage like below at Engels Air Base

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Identify damage

You can read WaPo, NY Times and Stimson centre's report on this. If you so wish, I can post the URLs.

I am sure I am living in the real world.

Is AVM Bharti living in a real world?

 

[ARMalik]

Never in my wildest dreams did I think that in my life-time INDIA WILL ADMIT DEFEAT OPENLY IN PUBLIC !! IT IS HISTORIC !

But the road ahead is dangerous. India will learn from this - it will even become a bitc.h of US just to get back at Pakistan. The more time these cunning Hindus are given, the more dangerous they will become. So China - Pakistan needs to settle the score once and for all QUICKLY. NOW IS THE TIME to do this ! Let's dismantle them decisively !

 

[side-winder]

After the loss of aircraft on day one, IAF didn’t launch anything and remained on ground. This statement is correct.

But, it analysed what went wrong on 7th and re-calibrated its strategy and was on full force again on 10th.

Most of the weapons fired across were air launched on 10th and not SSMs. They didn’t face any resistance whatsoever.

While I give credit to PAF for what it achieved but it was restricted to 7th May. 9th onwards there was a counter strategy in place and utilised fully by the IAF on 10th.

Air Superiority can be claimed if one can deny the adversary air power to carry out its missions. Which wasn’t the case.

The air activity of fighters now is for them to go back to their bases and is in no way indicative that they were stuck on ground.

Hayyyee Bhaiyya jee. I wish you to have an insider friend in your airforce and ask him someday - is what you stated above really true? He'll tell you the story of 10th as well.

Not a single IAF fighter had the audacity to come within 200 km of border. Mostly SSMs were employed. But i don't expect you to believe. Anyway

Doesn't it strike strange to you? Somehow, even on 10th, when PAF was on offensive close to border. Not a single PAF jet could be locked / downed. That only tells u one thing. The IAF had totally given up on thoughts of engaging PAF head on. Instead decided remain 200-300 km inside indian airspace. Now unfortunately, even at those distances, many of our bases still fall in targeting range of your ALCMs.

Like i said, the western bases close to our border were totally silent. Im not saying aircrafts were struck on ground but it was merely the fear of PAF that kept them on ground. Even on 10th, no PAF fighter was engaged by IAF fighter. No air activity on western bases close to border since 7th. Only a couple of days ago, sorties flew back to central / eastern bases.