Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[El Sidd]

I know i love my country but i just dont see us ever taking the other side of Kashmir

Can't see it. Try feeling it. Don't just give up

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Raj!
Bas kr dy ab.
Chawallan maar maar k apna hashar kr liya tu ny,

The fact they compare hollywood with their bollywood makes me lolz

 

[hussain0216]

Look at Indians flooding community notes on X. But Saaaaaar down does not mean lost

F'ing clowns

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But saar, I thought we used drones to spoof the PAF into thinking they ripped India a new ass hole

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I said to an indian Muslim in person (before the recent conflict), do whatever you want to do to prove your loyalty to india, I don't care about your not liking Pakistan, you can hate us, it doesn't bother me. But stop being a baygairat, the kind of stuff india is producing and sharing via netflix shows, where they show Muslim indian boys as gays and Muslim indian girls falling in love with indian Hindus and Islam as some obsolete concept. And all this is shown as something very normal is totally unacceptable.

And I said to him, this is where you cross lines baygairto, if you cannot confront them or protest against this then become dalits par yeh baygairat pan chor do hud he kar di hy tum logo nay tou. I did use the word baygairat in my conversation.

gulfi arabs and indian so called "Muslims" are the BIGGEST Munafiqs, Kuffar cucks on the planet. indian hindus/sikhs are the biggest Islamaphobes, Kuffar idol-worshippers on the planet yet indian so called "Muslims" defend and worship them. How the F**K does that work????????...........I can't even get my head around that!!!!!!

 

[Ali_Baba]

Here’s a category of types of Russian planes destroyed by UKR Drones I managed to search and find out.

Tu-95 Bombers

A50 Russian flying radar Command control post

TU-22M3 , Are for land based attacks conventional or Nuclear attacks.


Reports say 10 to 15 planes were lost in this UKR attack.

Very very expensive day for Russia - even if it was just 3 units overall ( reports saying more though ).

 

[lightning f57]

This air battle will be studied for decades

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Make no mistake many western forces are quietly wondering how the PAF carried out such multi facted complex operations in one go. It does help when your opponent is arrogant and haughty but you cant always rely on their incompetence.

The main reason IMO is the integration of all the key forces and having Chinese help, not relying on multiple different vendors have simplified things.

 

[Meengla]

Very nice we are getting the HQ-19B from what i understand is quite good and comparable to the THAAD from US. We should also maybe acquire the HQ 17 aswell.

India has deep pockets and Pakistan's geography is narrow, assets/cities too close to Indian border, the front line stretches from the Rann of Kutch to Siachen Glacier... I don't see how in future conflicts Pakistan will be able to prevent barrages of Indian missiles from destroying Pakistani assets. India, on the other hand, is better resourced to counter Pakistani missiles.
I think it maybe better for Pakistan to adapt the North Korea model: NK has Seoul as a concentrated target in case of a conflict: Seoul would be gone from the artillery and missile attacks, which would be an unacceptable price to pay. Pakistan should target New Delhi as a 'deterrence'. That's the only cost-effective deterrence against India's missile attacks on Pakistan.

 

[Baibers_1260]

Errr... days of meat waves are long over. Armed civilians will be walking in a meat grinder.

Not really.. A full blown insurgency and resistance is difficult to quell . Afghanistan is a good example. It's not meat waves but sabotage , ambush strikes, and intelligence to an external enemy. Your proxy BLA is doing just that, but only 2% of the population support the outfit even though it is backed by massive funds training and support.
So yes, a future insurrection cannot be ruled out unless India miraculously returns to an earlier secular environment that was there in 1971 when Indian Administered Kashmir was absolutely peaceful compliant and supportive of India,
An era of dreams !

 

[hussain0216]

Scores of Surab attackers were eliminated just within 24 hours of their cowardly terrorist attack. With this rate of elimination, I don't think BLA terrorists will last long.

It looks like these terrorists don't get a chance for another attack once these terrorists expose themselves. These cowards preferred to run away as the security forces started their response. These they exposed their hide outs too where they were eliminated and many others captured.

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Drones really hammered the BLA, they can't sustain rates where they lose scores of members in a blood bath

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

+ @Sharma Ji

I am serious about Pakistan taking back Indian Occupied Kashmir except the Hindu majority areas in Jammu. The way the successive Indian govts have been behaving for decades leaves very little other choice unless there is a big change of policies in India. I know, I know you'd start the same old 'terrorism' blame on Pakistan but I have no doubt that the Pahalgam attack was either a False Flag by India or some rogue element who had nothing to do with the state of Pakistan. But the Indian over reaction shows a clear long term strategic policy on Kashmir and to counter that Pakistan will have become proactive.
So, yes, Indian Occupied Kashmir can be taken back militarily! And to that end, Pakistan should start massive mobilization of heavily armed civilians to form militias which would cross into IoK with some help from the Pakistani military while the bulk of the Pakistani Army would guard the International Border with tactical nukes as last resort. The militias would be voluntary and there is no shortage of armed manpower in Pakistan, especially in the north, who would sacrifice their lives to secure Pakistan and Kashmiris rights.
As to the quoted part: I think both countries wanted de-escalation. Both are going to rearm and regroup for the next war.

india has made it's intentions CRYSTAL clear that at the very least, they aim to invade and take over Azad Kashmir AND snatch as much other Pakistani territory as possible.

 

[Fatman17]

This fact is hard to understand by anyone with fanboy mentality, who think of this conflict like a sports match and link all aspects of this to one.

First of all it was not a war. War is what is taking place between Russia and Ukraine right now where Russia has set sight over Ukraine territory and is hell bent to not stop till it achieves its aim.

This was started by India with clean strike over few terrorists camps to give a message to Paksiatn to stop any kind of support to secessionists in Kashmir. It said clearly that it is not against military. This message was for posturing that we don’t want military to military escalation if things stop right there.

It was expected that Paksiatn would give a reply which it did by shooing down Indian fighters and then launching attacks with drones. It was a message again to show that Paksiatn would retaliate at any cost.

India said - wait you want to attack our military bases, we will attack your’s too and we can hit anything we want. But the weight of attack was kept at minimum level. Not excessive damage just signalling. Intent still was not to start a full war.

Paksiatn retaliated with Fatah and CM400 strike with an attempt to do the same like Indian targeting.

Till this time, no side was keen for a full fledged war but mere posturing and signalling.

This is clear from the kind of and number of weapons used till ceasefire was declared.

So, there is no question of who won and who lost as both sides exposed chinks in the armour for the other side. Vulnerabilities were exposed on both the sides.

Corollary to that would be - Why did Paksiatn accept ceasefire if everything was going great for it? Or why didn’t it make some more gains if it was going so great? I am not claiming these, but just quoting for some perspective.

Any more time could have resulted in an escalation of unimaginable dimensions, which no one wanted and decided to accept the ceasefire without much hulla gulla.

Be careful bro. No terrorist were present in the mosques. That is a fact.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Not really.. A full blown insurgency and resistance is difficult to quell . Afghanistan is a good example. It's not meat waves but sabotage , ambush strikes, and intelligence to an external enemy. Your proxy BLA is doing just that, but only 2% of the population support the outfit even though it is backed by massive funds training and support.
So yes, a future insurrection cannot be ruled out unless India miraculously returns to an earlier secular environment that was there in 1971 when Indian Administered Kashmir was absolutely peaceful compliant and supportive of India,
An era of dreams !

Didnt they try to Take over Surab in Balochistan but were thwarted in a matter of hours? I believe we killed over 90 terrorists there yesterday. And the comedy indian media really think Surab is captured by BLA lolz

 

[Vkdindian1]

Be careful bro. No terrorist were present in the mosques. That is a fact.

I am not giving any personal twist to anything.

I am quoting from the official release.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Be careful bro. No terrorist were present in the mosques. That is a fact.

His original account banned and he created many accounts so one account ban he is switching to another account until first one got unban again.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

india has made it's intentions CRYSTAL clear that at the very least, they aim to invade and take over Azad Kashmir AND snatch as much other Pakistani territory as possible.

Their main objective is to take Pakistan Azaad Kashmir but idk why Gilgit baltistan is even considered as Pakistan Azaad Kashmir when they consider themselves as Pakistanis