Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[hydrabadi_arab]

If you are referring to Air Marshal Bharti's statement in the press conference following the aerial engagement, he actually said:

"We are in a combat scenario and losses are part of combat. However, we have achieved all our objectives and all our pilots are back home,"

He never said they were "safe", nor did he clarify the condition they were in (dead vs alive vs injured).

Not one member of India's brave and free press community asked for the obvious clarification that was needed. 1.5 billion bit their collective tongue.

No one is willing to go ask Shivangi if she is all right. She used to give interview every other week.

 

[Vkdindian1]

installations with impunity while Pakistan cannot attack back the same way. So how come deterrence has not been established by India?

That would be known as the time passes.

When the ceasefire was declared, India was striking where it wanted. That probably wouldn’t be lost to your military because they know more than fanboys.

 

[Sam6536]

Pakistan Air Force had the upper hand in the May 7th engagment but India won the cruise missile game post that. Post May 7th Pakistan played a reactive game and the hits were not proportional.

The fact remains that India hit deep inside Pakistan, I won't debate on the actual damage done the point is that India has thousands of Brahmos compared to Pakistani cruise missiles arsenal. New factory for Brahmos was just set up.

Brahmos hypersonic variant is in production.

So yeah IAF lost jets but Pakistan didn't have strategic depth in this conflict. India's geography, economy and size will mean that Pakistan would have to find some effective counter against India.

Pakistani win - PAF
Indian win - Brahmos

 

[Master Chief]

The official Indian stance of…..
‘The number of jets we lost is not important’ and the concept that they grounded for a couple of days in the middle of a war to sort out their tactics is somehow good —- is the most ridiculous position taken by any Air Force in modern aviation history.
Despite attacking how they wanted, where they wanted, when they wanted, with what they wanted, they were smashed to bits with again no comparison in modern aviation history. A country this big should be gracefull enough to accept defeat and learn from their mistakes but not happening with Modi and Godi in charge and a military leadership all too happy to toe the line and save their skins.

Yes.

I will add though, accepting defeat is not a matter of grace towards one's enemy - it is more a matter of professional pride for those fallen and injured servicemen and women and their families.

The Indian nation, led by their free and courageous press, is literally demonstrating its lack of honour with every passing day by not acknowledging IAF losses. If they write off pilot deaths by some fabricated non-combat scenario, then it really is only going to make matters worse.

Perhaps we should let them continue in this way, as it doesn't bother us in the slightest.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

To quickly summarise
Pakistan Air Force had the upper hand in the May 7th engagment but India won the cruise missile game post that. Post May 7th Pakistan played a reactive game and the hits were not proportional.

The fact remains that India hit deep inside Pakistan, I won't debate on the actual damage done the point is that India has thousands of Brahmos compared to Pakistani cruise missiles arsenal. New factory for Brahmos was just set up.

Brahmos hypersonic variant is in production.

So yeah IAF lost jets but Pakistan didn't have strategic depth in this conflict. India's geography, economy and size will mean that Pakistan would have to find some effective counter against India.

Pakistani win - PAF
Indian win - Brahmos

now get lost...

 

[Zorawar Light Tank]

Well if some bloke on the internet said it, must be true. You clearly are some deluded tunni Dalit bakht. Why are you ashamed to show you're indian and use the name of a Pakistani tank?

Tom Cooper is a renowned war historian, and he is the same guy who stated that there is insufficient evidence to confirm the success of Balakot airstrikes. However, he did acknowledge the downing of a Pakistani F-16 during the aerial skirmish that took place the following day.

I also agree that during the Balakot airstrikes, the available evidence was limited—a low-resolution image of the target showing three holes on the roof, which was not convincing enough. Additionally, Pakistan was able to quickly seal off the area. This time, however, confirmed videos and images of the targeted sites have gone viral across social media, Impossible to dispute the outcome.

 

[maverick]

Abay, tou kya chut!ya hogaya hai?

What is this Bollywood script featuring some Khanna & synchronized dancing with wardrobe changing alongside a background.

Ye tumhari AmmA ka ghar nahe jahan maasi say zabardasti say saafai kar-wao.

Listen, child... We aren't Nepal or Sri Lanka. And our Nuclear Warheads, for some odd reason only point & aim East.

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i will go as far as to say Pakistan is amongst the top 5 armed forces in the world.
These pagan zionist aka buth parasaat log, looks for reason to feel good about thrmselves..
May Allah humiliate them always till the end of “time”

 

[maverick]

India is the only country in the WORLD which deserves a gold medal for not being able to shoot down a single combat aircraft for over 50 years (weather baloons don't count) yet has managed to lose every type of front line jet in it's inventory.
Also it has the distinction of being first to ruin the reputation of Dassault Rafales, SU-30s and Mirage-2000 as none of these are known to have been ever shot down in combat before .
MiG-21 has already been turned into flying coffins while IAF has also managed to crash over 60 Jaguars without once firing in anger.
I guess that leaves Tejas...oh well , its probably the best stealth aircraft as it's hardly visible... even on Republic Day .

love what u have written, anc eye opener for the world, who sell these weapon systems to Hinduvta Indians

 

[Master Chief]

Because that would have caused escalation not warranted by anyone. Attacking highest military and political leaders is done only when one is ready for a full scale war.

10 Kms away is more than enough to drive home the point about capability if required. The same can’t be said for Pakistan.
Apart from tall claims on this forum and desperate attempts to link death of soldiers there is no proof of success of ground attacks.

Oh oooookay then. According to you (not any Indian official, mind you) India didn't want escalation, which steered certain operational choices.

So when Pakistani political leadership has daily during the conflict also stated that they didn't want escalation, why are you unable to accept that at face value?

 

[Yasser76]

Indian mistakes were made on day one. It was nothing else than pathetic for them to loose those aircraft.
This thread is full of that. It has been also accepted by non-bhakts.

However, no one wants to talk about Pak failures. Everything was at it’s finest.
All the attacks were successful and all the weapons found there mark while all Indian weapons fell in open fields or buildings that were empty or hangars that had nothing inside or runways that were repaired in no time.

The thread has turned into self aggrandisation.

Nope, Pak openly admitted to Indian hits in ISPR conferences, literally in front of the whole world.
India still not ready to admit what exactly it lost.

Try and be factual here, saves red faces all round.

 

[Windjammer]

love what u have written, anc eye opener for the world, who sell these weapon systems to Hinduvta Indians

There's a reason PAF is considered best spare parts dealer of IAF aircraft :

 

[Pagal khaana]

Pakistan is the only South Asian country where India intervenes militarily. India has never carried out military interventions in Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Myanmar, or Bhutan.

We are very weak, poor, fighting with each other due to hunger, we don't want our nuke, please come and denuclearise us...

 

[Meengla]

Pakistan Air Force had the upper hand in the May 7th engagment but India won the cruise missile game post that. Post May 7th Pakistan played a reactive game and the hits were not proportional.
The fact remains that India hit deep inside Pakistan, I won't debate on the actual damage done the point is that India has thousands of Brahmos compared to Pakistani cruise missiles arsenal. New factory for Brahmos was just set up.
Brahmos hypersonic variant is in production.
So yeah IAF lost jets but Pakistan didn't have strategic depth in this conflict. India's geography, economy and size will mean that Pakistan would have to find some effective counter against India.

Pakistani win - PAF
Indian win - Brahmos

India currently has several advantages over Pakistan in a missile war.
I believe Pakistan is going to counter India by creating a large arsenal of missiles capable of destroying enough Indian assets to 'deter' India. India has the strategic depth but still several cities and military infra are vulnerable. And with China so purposefully behind Pakistan, India can NEVER prevail over Pakistan.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

We are very weak, poor, fighting with each other due to hunger, we don't want our nuke, please come and denuclearise us...

who the hell are you posing as a pakistani you damn indian

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

India currently has several advantages over Pakistan in a missile war.
I believe Pakistan is going to counter India by creating a large arsenal of missiles capable of destroying enough Indian assets to 'deter' India. India has the strategic depth but still several cities and military infra are vulnerable. And with China so purposefully behind Pakistan, India can NEVER prevail over Pakistan.

Not create but buy

Our best bet now to level up on the missile field is to acquire DF-17 missiles. Its a hypersonic missile