Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Vkdindian1]

What did the strikes acheive? Nothing if any military value, yet, like 2019 and 2016, another "win"....

What was achieved or lost has been described very succinctly in this post on another thread.

Post in thread 'Pakistan has a Problem | Quwa Group - My Counter Thoughts'

Jun 7, 2025

Not sure why, but @Quwa seems to have taken an alarmist point of view. Their previous podcast was awkward in many ways. Healthy skepticism is always good but shouldn’t degenerate into reflexive pessimism. There’s a line between caution and undue alarm, and they seemed to have crossed it.

The May skirmishes certainly exposed Pakistan’s gaps in air defense and GHQ’s unfounded and irresponsible “maturity & restraint” nonsense but there were many many positives as well. Pakistan’s successes were globally acknowledged, something Quwa doesn’t seem to find relevant.

A lot of respect...

• Ak01

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[Master Chief]

Pakistan is the only South Asian country where India intervenes militarily. India has never carried out military interventions in Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Myanmar, or BhBhutan.

Come on guys, this is one of you isn't it? Own up please - which bright spark Pakistani is spoofing? No Indian can be truly this incompetent.

 

[Corax]

Come on guys, this is one of you isn't it? Own up please - which bright spark Pakistani is spoofing? No Indian can be truly this incompetent.

Hello?! 7 May?!

 

[maverick]

Need citation:

whats the estimation of Indian Brahamos inventory and what is the rate of production.

Since Brahamos has been effective, can anyonr share what can be effective strategy to counter it in future conflicts?

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Need citation:

whats the estimation of Indian Brahamos inventory and what is the rate of production.

Since Brahamos has been effective, can anyonr share what can be effective strategy to counter it in future conflicts?

Boosting AD like we are doing now with HQ-19.

Also getting our own equivalant of brahmos(DF-17) which can deter india

 

[Sam6536]

India currently has several advantages over Pakistan in a missile war.
I believe Pakistan is going to counter India by creating a large arsenal of missiles capable of destroying enough Indian assets to 'deter' India. India has the strategic depth but still several cities and military infra are vulnerable. And with China so purposefully behind Pakistan, India can NEVER prevail over Pakistan.

Let's hope it doesn't ever come to a full blown war then. I know for a fact it would be disastrous for both sides.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Let's hope it doesn't ever come to a full blown war then. I know for a fact it would be disastrous for both sides.

Well get modi out then for doing such escalation over a stupid terrorist attack

 

[ghazi52]

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[Master Chief]

Op Sindoor is the first battle in India’s two-front war. A vicious pawn in a King’s Gambit

The Chinese use Pakistan as a cheap instrument to triangulate India between them. It is safer to presume that the Chinese now see Pakistan as an extension of their Western Theatre Command.

theprint.in

Why Shekar Gupta is worried about Chinese weapons when India won the war and Pakistan was humiliated? I mean his article soon after 10th may declared India clear victor. India intercepted all Fatah rockets but somehow Poonch was turned in to mini Gaza.

And no Shekar g, Pakistan didn't fire any cruise/ballistic missile. Maybe couple of CM400 from JF17 to hit S400 if you count that. Fatah are rockets, cannot call them missiles.

We should hold Shekhar Gupta true to his word. India didn't defeat Pakistan, they actually defeated China's western command! Beijing trembles in awe.

 

[ghazi52]

 

[falcon34]

Because that would have caused escalation not warranted by anyone. Attacking highest military and political leaders is done only when one is ready for a full scale war.

10 Kms away is more than enough to drive home the point about capability if required. The same can’t be said for Pakistan.
Apart from tall claims on this forum and desperate attempts to link death of soldiers there is no proof of success of ground attacks.

You haven't answered these questions
Why modi didn't posed with a the Cheeseboard radar?
Where is the wreckage of F1 missiles that indian AD shot down?
Why were Indian Journalists claiming pak jets over sirinagar??

 

[Sam6536]

What did the strikes acheive? Nothing if any military value, yet, like 2019 and 2016, another "win"....

That's why I said I don't know about the actual material losses, so my og comment did not refer to it.

My contention was that India has thousands of Brahmos so it has a lot more leeway to lob multiple of those at specific targets.

Remember that Brahmos india mistakenly launched at Pakistan? It was truly baffling at the time, but now it seems to be done intentionally.

The achievement is symbolic about strategic depth in a conflict. There is no "win" here. We didn't fight conventionally for anyone to lose or win.

 

[Yasser76]

That's why I said I don't know about the actual material losses, so my og comment did not refer to it.

My contention was that India has thousands of Brahmos so it has a lot more leeway to lob multiple of those at specific targets.

Remember that Brahmos india mistakenly launched at Pakistan? It was truly baffling at the time, but now it seems to be done intentionally.

The achievement is symbolic about strategic depth in a conflict. There is no "win" here. We didn't fight conventionally for anyone to lose or win.

Sure, Pakistan has thousands of missiles, so the point is kind of mute. Symbolic means little when it is widley known India can strike missiles at Pakistan

 

[Sam6536]

Sure, Pakistan has thousands of missiles, so the point is kind of mute. Symbolic means little when it is widley known India can strike missiles at Pakistan

Key point is sub sonic cruise missiles i.e Brahmos. They tend to have more specific targets, larger range and way faster speeds.

I belive your variant is the Fatah series.

Hypersonic tech will soon be introduced in the subcontinent, the point is not who gets it first but who is able to manufacture em in mass numbers.

 

[Yasser76]

What was achieved or lost has been described very succinctly in this post on another thread.

Post in thread 'Pakistan has a Problem | Quwa Group - My Counter Thoughts'

Jun 7, 2025

Not sure why, but @Quwa seems to have taken an alarmist point of view. Their previous podcast was awkward in many ways. Healthy skepticism is always good but shouldn’t degenerate into reflexive pessimism. There’s a line between caution and undue alarm, and they seemed to have crossed it.

The May skirmishes certainly exposed Pakistan’s gaps in air defense and GHQ’s unfounded and irresponsible “maturity & restraint” nonsense but there were many many positives as well. Pakistan’s successes were globally acknowledged, something Quwa doesn’t seem to find relevant.

A lot of respect...

• Ak01

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Yes, a few hangers and a hit on a runway. Damage may be around $1 million.

Shall we add up India's $$$ loss?