Azerbaijan Air Force Becomes Fourth Operator of JF-17 Fighter Aircraft, President Aliyev Confirms

[That_Guy]

Turkey itself has 0 AESA fighter in service, 0 middle-range AA in service, everything is under development. I would say the chance of a Turkified JF-17 is zero.

Listen, it's okay to have a bad opinion, but try to keep it to yourself next time.

Anyway, it's already happening. Azerbaijan is literally buying the thunder on the condition that Turkey integrate it's own weapons and sensors on it.

 

[sutton9999]

Listen, it's okay to have a bad opinion, but try to keep it to yourself next time.

Anyway, it's already happening. Azerbaijan is literally buying the thunder on the condition that Turkey integrate it's own weapons and sensors on it.

integration yes, but radar etc. no, which is the essential.

Who has a bad opinion here? It is you.

 

[Rational Philosopher]

integration yes, but radar etc. no, which is the essential.

Who has a bad opinion here? It is you.

Turkey has developed its own AESA radar, and is in fact developing an entire 5th generation fighter jet, a missile equivalent to the Meteor — so radar, etc, yes.

Turkey will add an AESA on its own F-16 fleet during the modernisation program coming up.

 

[sutton9999]

Turkey has developed its own AESA radar, and is in fact developing an entire 5th generation fighter jet, a missile equivalent to the Meteor — so radar, etc, yes.

Turkey will add an AESA on its own F-16 fleet during the modernisation program coming up.

of course, like I said, under development.

 

[Rational Philosopher]

of course, like I said, under development.

Most are under testing. Decent chance they'll be ready to equip Azerbaijani JF-17s in the later variants.

 

[That_Guy]

integration yes, but radar etc. no, which is the essential.

Who has a bad opinion here? It is you.

No no, its you.

Do you know what integration means?

Also, Turkiye's radar has finished development, I'm pretty sure, and has been integrated on their Turkified F-16s.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

No no, its you.

Do you know what integration means?

Also, Turkiye's radar has finished development, I'm pretty sure, and has been integrated on their Turkified F-16s.

isn't their murad AESA already deployed in F-16 ozgur upgrade?

 

[sutton9999]

No no, its you.

Do you know what integration means?

Also, Turkiye's radar has finished development, I'm pretty sure, and has been integrated on their Turkified F-16s.

Who is telling others "keep opinion to oneself" in a public forum?

Integration here means attaching a few new weapons/ammunition to it.
Same thing French will allow India to do on Rafale, according to the latest news.

The jet itself will remain the same, as production/delivery already starts.

Turkey stuff is not in services, development/testing is not in services.
Turkey still pays 4 million dollars for one AM120C in a recent deal.

 

[That_Guy]

isn't their murad AESA already deployed in F-16 ozgur upgrade?

It is.

 

[That_Guy]

Who is telling others "keep opinion to oneself" in a public forum?

It was a suggestion, so you don't look foolish. Take it as friendly advice, not an order.

Integration here means attaching a few new weapons/ammunition to it.
Same thing French will allow India to do on Rafale, according to the latest news.

Okay.

The jet itself will remain the same, as production/delivery already starts.

No one said otherwise.

Turkey stuff is not in services, development/testing is not in services.
Turkey still pays 4 million dollars for one AM120C in a recent deal.

It is in service.

They're buying the AIM120s for their non-ozgur F-16s.

Their Ozgur F-16s now exclusively use Turkish BVRs and WVRs.

 

[MS Sandhu]

They're going for a Turkified JF-17, so it will have Turkish sensors and weapons.

In other words, it's a 50/50 on if they get PL-15E and CM400AKG, but I'd say there is a strong possibility that they'll opt solely for Turkish missiles as a more reliable and long term solution.

It may not be pick and plug in game.What do you mean by Turkified sensors?
Are you referring to radar?
Or Turkish BVR missiles that are not even in production yet.

This Turkified JF17 is nonsense.

 

[ARMalik]

I would agree with that

China should not sell PL-15 or CM-400 AKG to anyone outside Pakistan

I also hope the Block 3 is a downgraded version

we cant compromise national security for short term profits

although its $4.2 billion !!

Fair points but with AI infusion a lot of Aircraft features can be enabled or disabled Remotely, example via satellites. I believe that Blk-3 has built-in AI module, and so does J-10 and so does J35.

 

[ARMalik]

Anyway, it's already happening. Azerbaijan is literally buying the thunder on the condition that Turkey integrate it's own weapons and sensors on it.

I have to say this is a bit odd since Blk-3 can work much more effectively if it is part of the Pakistan / China's eco system. Anyways, if this is what Azer--jan wants then so be it - it is their money.

 

[MS Sandhu]

I would agree with that

China should not sell PL-15 or CM-400 AKG to anyone outside Pakistan

I also hope the Block 3 is a downgraded version

we cant compromise national security for short term profits

although its $4.2 billion !!

JF 17 is not something out of this world that can compromise n.s.

Provide them best of the best so they further expand their defence ties with us.
We have good designs that are waiting for dollars to get some momentum.Pakistan seriously needs investment in its defence Industry to scale up the production.
GIDS is failing to get us there.This deal is a good kick-start.Hope GIDS get some deal for Taimur also.

 

[That_Guy]

It may not be pick and plug in game.What do you mean by Turkified sensors?
Are you referring to radar?
Or Turkish BVR missiles that are not even in production yet.

This Turkified JF17 is nonsense.

I'm sorry, what? Have none of you even heard about the Ozgur?