Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[clutch]

agghh... North Korea doesn't threaten Israel. NK threatens Seoul and thus no major war in the Korean Peninsula for 60 years. The Middle East is quasi religious and thus irrational and in multiple countries. The East Asians are far smarter.

The North Korean worship the Dear Leader. That's their religion.

But you are correct. So not expect N Korea, China, or even the Russians to come to the aid of Anti-Israel Iranians or others.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Gonna call BS on this one. Of course they aren’t going to give the Israeli’s free damage assessment.

It’s highly likely anything above natanz is now gone. And the vibration likely damaged the sensitive centrifuges meters below if they didn’t penetrate.

you can't hide increase in radiation in atmosphere, I believe it

 

[Tamerlane]

From a strategic perspective, China's best strategy is to “allow Israel and the United States to control the entire Middle East.”

I know this sounds cruel, but it is indeed the most advantageous strategy for China.

Israel/the United States has fundamental, irreconcilable cultural conflicts with the entire Middle East region. They can destroy the armies and governments of Middle Eastern countries, but they cannot eliminate all the people of the Middle East. If Israel/the United States were to completely control the entire Middle East region, they would be completely bogged down in an endless people's war. The U.S. war in Afghanistan is a classic example.

Of course, during this period, China can moderately provide some support to intensify the confrontation between the two sides. But China does not need to directly intervene.

Instead, China can continue to develop its national strength and military power. At the appropriate time, it can use both economic and military power to directly target the United States.

With Middle Eastern oil in Israeli/US control they will have China by the balls. And all trade will be diverted to the West.

 

[Toxic]

Israel claims that Mossad agents on the ground neutralized them before the attack.

Not sure how reliable is the claim.

Sounds like cope to me, also if Mossad has infiltrated that deep into the Iranian military than Iran stands absolutely no chance

 

[OldTwilight]

What happened to all the domestic Iranian air defences? Are they vaporwave?

over saturated ...

 

[Dalit]

After the recent Indo-Pak conflict and this，I have to say Pakistan is very wise and lucky to have the J35/KJ500/HQ19 deal done，stealth fighter jets and better EW/AD systems are so crucial for the survival of the military，it's better be geared up ASAP.

Just yesterday the German news outlet DW was questioning Pakistan's defence budget increase. Not only should this budget be increased. Pakistan should get the best of the best. It is war all over the place and we are back to the wild wild West.

 

[muhammed45]

Gonna call BS on this one. Of course they aren’t going to give the Israeli’s free damage assessment.

It’s highly likely anything above natanz is now gone. And the vibration likely damaged the sensitive centrifuges meters below if they didn’t penetrate.

There are satellites that Record radiation and track it. Impossible to hide radiation leak

 

[ShapurII]

you can't hide increase in radiation in atmosphere, I believe it

Radiation from what?

 

[Immortals]

They haven't even released a statement.
Saudi Arabia released a statement sooner than Iraq.

It is impossible to say that Iraq is innocent in this.
This is the second time that Iraqi airspace is used to launch ALBMs against Iran.

Also, Gen. Soleimani was killed in Iraq.

Well there is no secret that only a subset of Iraqi government actually likes Iran. Then there is the Kurds, Sunnis, and anti Iran Shiites like Sadr and Sistani blocs.

So yes there are a lot of backstabbers in Iraq who are tired of Iranian influence in Iraqi politics who would be happy to feign ignorance and do nothing.

 

[White Privilege]

He doesn't have choice now.

that fatwa is a hoax, that is why Israel deemed it necessary to attack. No country in its right mind would limit its options when it is at a place where Iran is....

 

[Menthol]

A few batteries of S-300 whose FCRs were damaged last year in first Israeli attack on Iranian soil.

That is nearly not enough for a country the size of Iran. Iran needs 5x the amount of systems it has to even begin throwing up a wall of defense….some might argue 10x

Even Russia with all its air defenses is struggling against Ukraine and has pulled systems from its border with China to reinforce the war frontline

This is very bad.

The key to winning a war is preparation.

Iran is already losing before the war even begins.

 

[Meengla]

A few batteries of S-300 whose FCRs were damaged last year in first Israeli attack on Iranian soil.
That is nearly not enough for a country the size of Iran. Iran needs 5x the amount of systems it has to even begin throwing up a wall of defense….some might argue 10x
Even Russia with all its air defenses is struggling against Ukraine and has pulled systems from its border with China to reinforce the war frontline

Iran, with its immense oil wealth and much better human resources than Pakistan, could have developed a decent air force and air defense systems. But Iran's 'defense' was its proxies in Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Iraq... And when they became largely neutralized and ineffective in the last 6-8 months, plus with the decades long investment by the West in Iran's internal frictions, Iran became exposed. That's what Scott Ritter tried to warn against 2-3 months ago where he got chewed out.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Well there is no secret that only a subset of Iraqi government actually likes Iran. Then there is the Kurds, Sunnis, and anti Iran Shiites like Sadr and Sistani blocs.

So yes there are a lot of backstabbers in Iraq who are tired of Iranian influence in Iraqi politics who would be happy to feign ignorance and do nothing.

Now is the time to kill them all. PMU puts up or gets killed too.

 

[ShapurII]

Well there is no secret that only a subset of Iraqi government actually likes Iran. Then there is the Kurds, Sunnis, and anti Iran Shiites like Sadr and Sistani blocs.

So yes there are a lot of backstabbers in Iraq who are tired of Iranian influence in Iraqi politics who would be happy to feign ignorance and do nothing.

That's all I'm saying. Iraq should be on top of our list. Nobody deserves the top spot more than Iraq.

 

[SaadH]

Khamenei will be targeted as well. This is the end for the regime.
Now they have to show if they really have the balls to "finish Israel off".

Iran needs to take mass casualties from Israeli citizens. Otherwise, this is the beginning of the end.

If Irani regime is going down they should target all US assets in the region as well as their minions like the gulfie camel jockeys. Dubai should be flattened at the very least and strait of Hormoz blocked for the foreseeable future.