Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Hayabusa]

The element of surprise that was present during the Balakot airstrikes was missing in Operation Sindoor. You may recall that 12 Mirage 2000s, escorted by 4 Su-30MKIs, penetrated deep into Pakistani airspace, bombed Jabba Top, and returned safely. However, one positive aspect of Operation Sindoor is the availability of undeniable proof to assess the damage inflicted on Pakistani jihadi infrastructure and airbases — something that was lacking after the Balakot strike. Back then, only a blurry satellite image showing three holes in a building at Jabba Top was released, which wasn’t convincing enough.

Bro, what are you on?

Both sides have officially stated that no border has been crossed. Keep this kind of delusional nonsense on your Indian forums , don't bring it over to the Pakistani side."

 

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[Vapnope]

Please don’t bother to provide anything. You are no one in this game nor I am.
If any credible proof is there, it would come out through sources easily accessible to anyone keen to look for it.

I would find it myself if it is out there. You can keep your hand made videos to yourself.

If you can't provide the evidence of your claims, why you keep yapping the same nonsense over and over again? If you are so impartial, why didnt you ask for the proofs from your side against their claims?

 

[Vapnope]

We got Uri 2025

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Thanks to Indian soldier who record it

But saaar no satellite pics saarrr.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

I agree in that the "soft kill capability" that affected their CM and drones should not have been revealed, there was no value in doing that, and it was best to leave the Indians guessing on what happened. Now, they know.

I don't think PAF cracked their comms. I think the EW was so dense that the bandwidth was not there, or secure comms frequencies were targeted/saturated such that they were forced to use open-comms only, which meant PAF listened in. i.e. PAF took out their secure comms frequencies, not cracked them.

The ABC kill model is well known by many air arms so i don't think that was that much of a secret, and the IAF would have worked that out by the way their fighters were shot down.

The range of the PL15E was exposed for sure, but that was going to happen regardless and that setup a new deterrence that will take India some time to overcome anyway(along with trying to adopt the ABC kill chain model).

The IAF AEW&C was aways are pretty poor, it is a by product of their Russian style training and thinking that favours ground based radars. The Phalcon's are old and have had very questionable capability anyway. They don't have enough of their home grown solution to provide coverage(capability aside of course). I do wonder what their next AEW&C move will be? Will they double down on homegrown or go for the Wedgetail which has maintenance commonality with their P8s.

One can only play catch up that long... any defensive capability once poked at is revealed. The only go to is take out out the aggressor! One cannot be reticent and keeping adding goal keepers... kick the ball take it to the other court.
Iran just showed how fatally flawed their whole strategy(if any) os and was... at this point they're mere spectators. They didn't war game their own flaws... checked or pushed the chinks in the armor. If they were so confident on their offensive capability it should have materialized in the matter of minutes... that window is lost.

Which is why I had already said at the onset... once that is gone. One has no option but general mobilization. The last hurrah!
You save your civilization or just cave in to become part of the history as a has been!

 

[Vkdindian1]

If you can't provide the evidence of your claims, why you keep yapping the same nonsense over and over again? If you are so impartial, why didnt you ask for the proofs from your side against their claims?

I asked for and provided proofs and discussed all the issues on the relevant threads. If you are so keen go to them. Don’t sidetrack which we both know is for obvious reasons.

Right now we are talking about IndoPak conflict and proof of attacks on Indian bases is the topic at hand.

No amount of sidetracking and cracking Saaar types jokes would make any difference, except for fanboys.

 

[Oracle]

it'll never happen. our leadership doesn't have the qualities to do these sorts of things.

Let's save and clear our own Balochistan first.
Why taking Iran part and make another enemy in neighbor ? Why not kashmir?

 

[Vapnope]

I asked for and provided proofs and discussed all the issues on the relevant threads. If you are so keen go to them. Don’t sidetrack which we both know is for obvious reasons.

Right now we are talking about IndoPak conflict and proof of attacks on Indian bases is the topic at hand.

No amount of sidetracking and cracking Saaar types jokes would make any difference, except for fanboys.

There has been zero proof of surgical strikes and F16 downed in 2019 and yet the claims of your side remain intact. Lets start from there and we will eventually arrive at 2025. I know you won't take the challenge because of the obvious reasons.

Indian side continued with "all pilots and planes are accounted for" until the video of Abhi surfaced online. Your side also denied PAF retaliation until the cam videos of H2/H4 was shared. Your side has been least credible in all these skirmishes and this skirmish won't be an exception.

 

[Vkdindian1]

There has been zero proof of surgical strikes and F16 downed in 2019 and yet the claims of your side remain intact.

I don’t take any responsibility for any side or any entity.
Those were discussed and beaten to death on the relevant threads.

I know you won't take the challenge because of the obvious reasons.

I am not a child who gets carried away in giving and taking meaningless challenges. It is not a duel.
So good luck with your attempts to take the discussion where you want - No where.

I suggest that you grow up and discuss issues with a little grace and accept failures as you accept and celebrate success.
Please choose wisely.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

The time has come to annex Sistan as mullah regime fall.

 

[Yasser76]

Pakistan is an Islamic Republic, and it has nukes.

That alone is a threat to Israel.

Iraq under Saddam wasn't an open threat to Israel either, yet we know what happened.

I understand that, but I think simple geography keeps us less relevant, like for instance Algeria or Indonesia are no threats. As long as there have been pro Western governments (like there has always been in Pak history) no great worry for Israel.

Also no it is far to late consdiering the Pak military. The only country that would be able to defang Pak nuke is US, and even then, they would struggle.

Just 2 nuke warheads get through to Israel then it is finished.

We should prepare for all threats, I agree, but Israle taking on Pak in the next 20 years is very very unlikley

 

[Vapnope]

Those were discussed and beaten to death on the relevant threads

Repeating same thing over and over while not a single shred of evidence has been shared. Topics discussed and veaten to death is simply Indians repeating the same nonsense over and over, regurgitating the same script without any evidence.
Anyone with two working brain cells can make a guess that chinese systems which helped shot down 6 planes while effectively blinding the whole EW spectrum of Israeli, French and Russian origins would absolutely maul any Indian indigenous sam systems whatsoever.

In any decent air force, DGAO would have been sacked at losing 6 planes while hitting two civilian targets but hey modi has to mumkin hai !

 

[Vapnope]

I suggest that you grow up and discuss issues with a little grace and accept failures as you accept and celebrate success.
Please choose wisely.

Haha It was our side openly accepting the hit for C130 and awacs not like AK Bharti or Anil Chauhan going philosopher on a simple question. It has been a month and Indian side has not accepted any loss yet despite a ton of proof for everyone to see. Maybe just maybe lecture this to your govt and your forces before you come here lecturing us. Grace lol

 

[Vkdindian1]

Repeating same thing over and over while not a single shred of evidence has been shared.

I am also saying the same thing. Please share the evidence which is credible and not based on hand made hazy videos that even your ISPR hasn’t used because he has some professional pride. I have no issues with that.

I am also accepting that the Chinese systems COULD have blinded Indian AD and all the Pak attacks COULD have been successful.
If they were really successful, then there would have been adequate open source analysis as a proof.
Please note that the satellite pictures of attack on Nur Khan Base were published by a Chinese company Mizar. So, don’t try to hide behind the claim that India isn’t allowing any agency to take satellite pictures. Chinese companies can do whatever they want and India can’t do a sausage to them. Mizar must have taken pictures of Indian bases too, but there was nothing worthwhile in them to help the ISPR make any claims.

While I agree with your hypothesis, you have to take it further and prove it. And prove it like a professional. No Saar type comments and poorly cut paste fan made videos.

In any decent air force, DGAO would have been sacked at losing 6 planes while hitting two civilian targets but hey modi has to mumkin hai !

Please sack him.

 

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