Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[TAC]

This aspect is done and dusted.

All those with even slightest belief in credibility have stopped talking about this aspect of this conflict.

Only fanboys/bhakts haven’t given up and they spin a new story everyday.

The Air to Air war went to PAF.
But the war of strikes on ground targets went to IAF.

The losses in the air for IAF were very big tactically and PAF deserves the credit for that.

The strikes on the ground was a different story and fanboys haven’t been able to digest or accept the truth.

They come up with all kinds of reasons but refuse to accept it.

Strikes on the ground by India were only last resort when AF failed badly and was desperate attempt to salvage some dignity. Since it is confirmed that there is no meaningful damage in Pakistan apart from loss of precious lives, all it achieved is badly needed cope. The narrative that PAF won in the air but India ‘won’ on the ground so all square is pure BS & level cope only.

 

[TAC]

I am also saying the same thing. Please share the evidence which is credible and not based on hand made hazy videos that even your ISPR hasn’t used because he has some professional pride. I have no issues with that.

I am also accepting that the Chinese systems COULD have blinded Indian AD and all the Pak attacks COULD have been successful.
If they were really successful, then there would have been adequate open source analysis as a proof.
Please note that the satellite pictures of attack on Nur Khan Base were published by a Chinese company Mizar. So, don’t try to hide behind the claim that India isn’t allowing any agency to take satellite pictures. Chinese companies can do whatever they want and India can’t do a sausage to them. Mizar must have taken pictures of Indian bases too, but there was nothing worthwhile in them to help the ISPR make any claims.

While I agree with your hypothesis, you have to take it further and prove it. And prove it like a professional. No Saar type comments and poorly cut paste fan made videos.


Please sack him.

Err…. Yeah but despite all that, isn’t it all just desperate cope if it confirmed that apart from loss of precious lives there was no serious damage to Pakistans assets?

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Didnt Pakistan Military last year say they have a hypersonic capable missile? Bet thats a classified project for now but if true


We dont even know our true capabilities yet, even dg ispr said this

 

[TAC]

I agree that the loss of fighter jets is a serious concern, and the Indian Air Force must ensure it can operate inside Pakistani airspace without such losses. However, the decision not to neutralize Pakistan’s air defense systems before the operation was not a tactical failure, but rather a limitation imposed by the rules of engagement. The Indian government aimed to target jihadi infrastructure while avoiding direct strikes on Pakistan’s military assets. That approach has now been reassessed. Valuable lessons have been learned from this conflict, and going forward, the Indian Air Force is expected to follow a more traditional strategy—first neutralizing enemy air defenses before carrying out offensive air operations.

O stop itIAF operate ‘inside’ Pakistani airspace without such lossesthey couldn’t even operate in their own airspace without such loses u . Maybe in Bollywood starring Akshay

 

[TAC]

I asked for and provided proofs and discussed all the issues on the relevant threads. If you are so keen go to them. Don’t sidetrack which we both know is for obvious reasons.

Right now we are talking about IndoPak conflict and proof of attacks on Indian bases is the topic at hand.

No amount of sidetracking and cracking Saaar types jokes would make any difference, except for fanboys.

Meaningless debate, given no significant damage confirmed in Pakistan. All this debate does is help u cope with PAF v IAF = 6-0 & Ra-fail got smashed with every other meaningful type in AF.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Meaningless debate, given no significant damage confirmed in Pakistan. All this debate does is help u cope with PAF v IAF = 6-0 & Ra-fail got smashed with every other meaningful type in AF.

Yaar why you never mention their colonel also admitted on conference their bases were bombed and they faced equipment and personnel loss

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

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These Melun-el Melun will never learn their lessons. They're Habis-el Habis....

 

[Distant_Observer]

Now its all starting to make sense and come together.

Israel asked its attack dog to test Pakistani airforce and ADs. They may have continued the strikes on Pakistan along with Israel on Iran simultaneously.

Had Pakistan failed. Israel would have included Pakistan in the bombing runs.

This explains the urgency from China to further strengthen PAF.

 

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[safriz]

Bhoortis went lit after IDF map of Pakistan

 

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[RafaleSlayer]

Never expected Indian foreign policy to unravel so quickly. Modi and Jaishanker have absolutely f**Ked it here.

They took a pounding, best thing would have been to just stay quiet and lick their wounds and plan for the next round. Instead send delegations, Tharoor mouthing off with long words and vocab that everyone is tired of the Oxbridge poet act now. Jaishanker going abroad acting as if India won and yet cowing down when asked about aircraft losses, CDS going way off script in Singapore and a compliant media that is now the laughing stock of the world after all the lies.

Never seen a diplomatic meltdown so bad so quick.

Pak meanwhile

Massive Chinese advanced weapons package
IMF/ADB loans
Praised by US Centcom
Praised by Trump (6 times now)
on several UNSC committees
Massive weapons sale to Azeris
More comittment for investment from Turks, Azeris and Arabs
Western press praising PAF

 

[Falcon26]

The Hindu nationalists are foaming at the mouths watching what Israel is doing in Iran and wondering why they haven’t succeeded to do the same to Pakistan.

Forget about about the wild fantasy’s of doing any serious damage, the truth is Pakistan has consistently given them a bloody nose and the downing of their premier jets in May as well as grounding of their Air Force which forced them to rely on surface launched missiles will be etched in their memories for generations.

They have Mr Asim to thank for ordering PAF to stand down when they accomplished a once-in-a-generation air superiority over Indian skies.

 

[Falcon26]

Meaningless debate, given no significant damage confirmed in Pakistan. All this debate does is help u cope with PAF v IAF = 6-0 & Ra-fail got smashed with every other meaningful type in AF.

The Indians gloss over the fact they lost 6 premier jets and had their Air Force grounded for 2 days and even then forced to stay at extreme ranges (per their own admission) while harping about few insignificant hits in some PAF bases. They are fixating on the base hits as a coping mechanism to hide from the historic trashing their Air Force got. The whole world talks about air battle battles. No one cares about a hole on a hanger and an isolated crater on a runway which normally takes an hour or so to fix.

 

[RafaleSlayer]

I have a feeling india thought we won't retaliate as they had sent message thru the arabs and the iranians......so they thought they'll bomb us and we would just accept it, lol (due to arab pressure).
Well, both the arabs and iranians were hugely mistaken. And they also learned that Pakistan will defend itself and not hesitate to raise the ladder when necessary.

A final decisive war WILL HAPPEN, just matter of time. This enemy will not stay put on peace at all. Preparations are needed quickly.

We should also explore chemical and biological weapons