Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Ali_Baba]

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Given that Israel has started to target economic civilian targets in Iran. When will Iran return the favour by taking out the CPU manufacturing fabs in Israel. Or is wasting a missile on some civilian building more appealing to Iran ?

 

[Psyko70]

Im 100 percent sure either iran has no more missile firing capability or iran is gng to launch big barrage after day or two.

 

[Ali_Baba]

the problem is that our military wasn't supposed to lose sky completely...

How can you control the sky without an airforce? Did that occur to anyone ?

 

[Immortals]

so , let's them to get burn , at least we wouldn't spend money on these useless airplanes ....

Those oldmen on top don't know the difference between 3rd gen fighters and 5rd gen fighters ...

These old men at top are dying. But this isn’t Syria. This is Iran’s own soil. These sons of bitches are responsible for the war coming to our soil for the first time in 45 years.

 

[Aggregate]

The US is putting Iran in a position where it only leads to regime change.

Dude Iran survived 8 years of Iraq + US + Israel with Iraq Brutally bombing them on daily basis. If they survived that and survived 35+ years of sanctions then they can survive Israel too. It has been a day and Tel Aviv looks far more devastated than Tehran.

The Israeli propaganda is too strong. Yesterday they made everyone feel like Iran is done for, by the night they were all hiding in bunkers themselves. Yes they managed to take out 2 generals by a huge mix of direct and covert actions, very early on, but even CNN claimed yesterday that Israel had failed to achieve any strategic impact. Iranians take Ayatollah's as their spiritual leader, not just a ruler. You cannot just throw him out as a ruler unless you force all Iranians to change their religion. This regime change idea is another one of their propaganda. Their former PM said so that it can never be done militarily or otherwise.

 

[ShapurII]

They are no where near the top. They kill civilians and fight powers which they know they have an edge in certain areas e.g. no air force.
They would get owned by an experienced force. They are made up of conscripts remember.

It's the IR that has fucked up badly. I don't give any credit to the Israelis for this at all.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Given that Israel has started to target economic civilian targets in Iran. When will Iran return the favour by taking out the CPU manufacturing fabs in Israel. Or is wasting a missile on some civilian building more appealing to Iran ?

Israeli ADs prioritize key sites at the expense of others if they begin to get overwhelmed.

 

[MastanKhan]

Don't be too sure about that. These white europeans eventually end up finishing off/genociding non-whites who are their faithful slaves. They want non-whites to be docile lady boys like the thai or filipinos who are proud of giving their women away to white europeans.

Hi,

My suggestion is to be careful when talking to iranians---.

Just wait for a couple of weeks and let things slow down a bit---then you may be able to communicate---. Right now they are in a fire fight---.

 

[Sarhang]

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[Falcon29]

As expected. Russia/China assholes won't do a single thing. Not help with jamming, nothing.

The United States is already leading the war and sponsoring it. This is just adding insult to injury.

They're doing much more than provide intelligence/refueling. They're providing targets/jamming, intercepting all of Iran's weapons, and God knows what else behind the scenes.
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Axios quoting an Israeli official: The United States may join the Israeli operation against Iran.

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[Taimoor]

Iranian President phones Pak PM and tells him Israel will get more severe response

Iran missiles cause multiple casualties after strikes in Israel

Strikes hit central and north Israel as the Israeli military carries out further attacks in Iran.

www.bbc.co.uk

Genuinely starting to feel like Pakistan and China are starting to openly side with Iran now

The same kill chain that was used against Indian Air force, needs to be used against Israeli air force, albeit over Iranian airspace (maybe little further down in Iraq). Those Israeli F16s, F15s stand no chance (when 4.5 gen Rafale had none). I am confident, F35s also will be dealt with.

BUT, Iran has to do immediate course correction in regards with Pakistan and China, its running out of time.

 

[Xiaolong]

if china and Russia are willing. they simply can sell the technology , for example Russia can sell rd93 technology and we will be able to make our own version JF17 Block II ...


The problem is that they don't want

Are you familiar with Karl Lee (Li Fangwei)?

 

[A1Kaid]

yes, China probably a more reliable ally because China has a massive industrial complex
but I am not sure the Chinese love the Mullahs, in the same way they love Putin.
in my opinion the russians just have a bigger mouth.
I am little shocked of the weakness of Iran military.
The Israelis military has proven again they are world class, nobody comes close.

You can’t say that when Israel has only fought weak countries with under developed militaries.

When Israel fights a country with a modern and capable force like Türkiye or Pakistan then we can assess their Air Force better, last time they fought against Pak pilots they lost.

 

[Immortals]

Minor damage to Tabriz missile base - good news in a sea of incompetence

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[GWXP]

Regarding the size of Iran's missile arsenal.

In 2010 US claimed Iran had 1000 ballistic missiles.

In 2020 General Kenneth McKenzie told the Senate Armed Services Committee that Iran has 2500-3000 ballistic missiles.

Iran has 2,500-3,000 ballistic missiles, says CENTCOM commander

Iran’s primary way of threatening the US and its allies in the region is its inventory of about 2,500-3,000 ballistic missiles, US Central Command (CENTCOM) commander...

www.janes.com

That is increase of Iran's missile arsenal by 2000 missiles in a decade.

Before that, in 2019, McKenzie said that Iran has over 3000 ballistic missiles of various ranges.

This was 5 years ago and assuming annual production of 200 missiles per year, Iran could have accumulated 3800 missiles by 2024.

Some 150 missiles have been fired during TP-1 and TP-2, but recent intelligence reports claim that since October 2024 Iran has increased production of missiles to 50 missiles per month.

So 3000 missiles by 2020 and 3800 missiles by 2024 minus 150 missiles for TP-1 and TP-2 and you have 3650 missiles left by October 2024 and then Iran increases production rate to 50 missiles per month and increases Iranian arsenal by June 2025 -7 month*50 missiles= by another 350 new missiles.

In total by the time of Israeli attack, Iran could have had 4000 ballistic missiles not all of which are long range.

Minus 200 missiles fired this night and as of now Iran has 3800 missiles in total with monthly production rate of 50 new missiles per month.

But we don't know what portion of that missile arsenal has a range of 1300-1500kms.