Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

How did cozying with the Americans and Israelis work out for you? You had years to upgrade your AD after the UN sanction was lifted. China signed a 25-years oil contract with you and you're the only ME nation securing a long-term contract from China despite immense pressure from the US.
When China pitched the J10C to you, you looked the other way and signed Su-35's. Where's your Su35 now? You also lined up behind India after the Indo-Pak war, giving India the rights to a strategic port.

You know, all these weird, strange actions or non-actions indicate to the world Iran is full of American-kissing puppets and cannot be a reliable partner in war or in peace.

Oh, seriously f*ck off.
1. You betrayed Iran 4 times at the UN Security Council which brought our economy on the verge of collapse and forced us to accept the JCPOA.
2. You abandoned Tehran-Shomal highway due to US sanctions.
3. You abandoned the Chabahar Port due to US sanctions. Chabahar was offered to you first, not the Indians.
4. You abandoned IR-40 nuclear reactor after Trump pulled out of the JCPOA.
5. You abandoned South Pars gas field in fear of US sanctions.
6. You closed the bank accounts of Iranian students studying in China after the US imposed unilateral sanctions.
7. You abandoned Tehran Metro, again due to US sanctions
8. You did nothing to restore our trade after the US kicked our banks out of the SWIFT.

The Chinese have been tried thoroughly. You are the most useless country on the face of the Earth. Passive, two-faced, submissive to the US to the core (you just signed an agreement with Trump that is 100% against your national interests) and cheap.
The only thing the Chinese culture can export is cheap goods. Period. You can't even export your culture unlike Japan and South Korea. Your only ally in your mind is a tin-pot dictator with a bad haircut that looks like a fat high-school bully.

The best possible outcome of this war is that if the IR falls, we will never see you in Iran again. Not only that, there will not be a drop of oil sold to you without the US permission. And guess what? You're the next on the list. So, enjoy while you can.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

If China, Pakistan, and or Russia get involved, you'll start seeing US, UK, and French boots on the ground. You might see the US start an invasion of Iran.

Also, Pakistan can't afford to get involved. It's already got it's hands full dealing with a fascist imperialist nation on its Eastern border.

Pak. has no economy, lets be frank, dont live in any illusions!
we have no functional economy!

 

[Faithfulguy]

If china helps Iran, I will sell my iPhone and buy a Huawei

Both iPhone and Huawei are made in China.

 

[majesticpug]

How can you control the sky without an airforce? Did that occur to anyone ?

You can't the sky without an airforce; but a good AD will at least prevent your enemy from controlling your country's sky. AD is an essential building block of a capable AF. Without that the Russians were an example.

 

[Immortals]

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First it was 3,000 then 2,000 and Bibi himself said 20,000 now this loser says less than 1,000.

Like I said garbage analysis. The western “Russia” OSINT arm chair generals are now changing hats and becoming Iranian OSINT armchair generals.

Hilarious

 

[Fatman17]

A war against Iran is always a war against Pakistan. We share a border and it is in our best interest to have a friendly/semi-friendly government ruling over the country. The same is true for the Iranians. Neighbours need good neighbours.

We don't have any

 

[Ali_Baba]

Pak need to protect its nuclear arsenal, if today Iran then next is Pakistan .

If Iran has freedom over Iranian airspace as it does over Syria, then flying directly to Pakistan is not that much of a problem for them. Pakistan will need to learn to look over its shoulder while looking at India eye to eye. The fall of Iran makes Pakistans security problems far worse as Israel wont need India to take a "pot shot at Pakistan" or it flank from both directions potentially.

 

[StormBreaker]

I have said already, Russia is a piss poor strategic ally. Iran was foolish to rely on them. Look at how many drones Iran has given and look at how Russia still has not delivered Su35s( which are most likely deliberately delayed by Russia to allow this operation to succeed !!!! )

What benefit is it to Russia to see iran crumble to Israel?

 

[Ali_Baba]

You can't the sky without an airforce; but a good AD will at least prevent your enemy from controlling your country's sky. AD is an essential building block of a capable AF. Without that the Russians were an example.

the two compliment each other... @Emirzad was one of those who argued that Irans AD and IADS was the best and no one knew what they were talking about with his long posts.

All of his points have been shot down .. i wonder what is thinking of what is happening of his fabled IADS right now???

 

[Immortals]

Everyone is underestimating Iran if you go by their history alone.

• They endured US/Israel sponsored bombings done by Iraq, all oilfields destroyed, every day for 8 years and never surrendered until Saddam lost it all.
• they also endured 35+ years of sanctions to the teeth and did not buckle
• Why would they break down after just a few days of Israel's measly bombings compared to all else that has been done to them ?

Two major differences.

1) Iraq was also incompetent in 1980’s in battlefield tactics just like a revolutionary purged Iranian military

2) Iran had F-14 which was still the F-22 of its day and kept Iranian airspace secure. It got to the point where whenever a F-14 was detected, Iraqi MiGs would immediately retreat the airspace.


Iran is now facing a strong military backed Israel and now has no equivalent to F-14 to guard its skies and has lost its skies to Israel.

So both those factors mean it’s a whole different ballgame this time around. The only thing in Iran’s favor is that Israel cannot launch a land war.

 

[RescueRanger]

Neighbours need good neighbours.

Slightly off topic but this part your post reminded me of the opening song to Ausi TV drama "Neighbours".

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[PakAl]

How do you know

I am ISI lol. Khawaja Asif mentioned this in NA assembly session. Not sure why he's becoming aggressive.

 

[Blueishere]

Land? You will never land what you think this is rambo movie they will have airsuperiority they will be able to land not the other way around besides these missiles can´t do much damage to such large countries. Two weeks? You think there are 3 people in the GCC. they are 65 million they have 3 times as large army in manpower with better equipment. UAE alone can destroy Iran infrastracture, all assets plus put troops on the ground I said this back in 2018 or 2019 some laughed at me but I didn´t care I was pragmatic which proves me right today.. I only look at equipment and arsenal don´t care much for hyperbolic elements

Where did you get the 65 million number from?

Possibly but if Iranian current government is pro India and Russia, also anti GCC then what can Pakistan do. Pakistan policy is different from current Iran, we want nothing to do with middleeast or Israel whilst Iran does. We could have been allies before the war if our interests aligned but they didn't. Israel has already succeeded, they are freely destroying Iran, they will destroy Iran nuclear and ballistic missiles capability, most likely target economic infrastructure and send Iran back 40 years, this will lead to Iranian government being toppled or Iranians will live like how Iraqis/Syrian lived and then after a decade remove the government.

Lets not be this pessimistic.

 

[mulj]

The Iranian internal security has really slept on the job or perhaps the leadership was working with Mossad. I mean how could Mossad build this huge network without being detected? Heads need to roll here.

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Lot of internal stupid policies tend to slip fragile individuals towards foreign influenced operations and hypocrisy among elites does not sit well with ordinary folks.
They did not eased of social valve pressure and it turned into hatred towards country, iranians are honorable people and do not like blatant injustice, especially if it is based under illogical principles and unaccountable faulty practices by authorities.

 

[F-22Raptor]

First it was 3,000 then 2,000 and Bibi himself said 20,000 now this loser says less than 1,000.

Like I said garbage analysis. The western “Russia” OSINT arm chair generals are now changing hats and becoming Iranian OSINT armchair generals.

Hilarious

You’re still living in your own fantasy if you believe Iran can sustain fire rates of 100-200 ballistic missiles per day beyond another 10-20 days.

And I already explained to you why this conflict is different from the Russian one. Israel has air superiority over Iran. Ukraine doesn’t over Russia.