Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[majesticpug]

How can you control the sky without an airforce? Did that occur to anyone ?

You can't the sky without an airforce; but a good AD will at least prevent your enemy from controlling your country's sky. AD is an essential building block of a capable AF. Without that the Russians were an example.

 

[Immortals]

First it was 3,000 then 2,000 and Bibi himself said 20,000 now this loser says less than 1,000.

Like I said garbage analysis. The western “Russia” OSINT arm chair generals are now changing hats and becoming Iranian OSINT armchair generals.

Hilarious

 

[Fatman17]

A war against Iran is always a war against Pakistan. We share a border and it is in our best interest to have a friendly/semi-friendly government ruling over the country. The same is true for the Iranians. Neighbours need good neighbours.

We don't have any

 

[Ali_Baba]

Pak need to protect its nuclear arsenal, if today Iran then next is Pakistan .

If Iran has freedom over Iranian airspace as it does over Syria, then flying directly to Pakistan is not that much of a problem for them. Pakistan will need to learn to look over its shoulder while looking at India eye to eye. The fall of Iran makes Pakistans security problems far worse as Israel wont need India to take a "pot shot at Pakistan" or it flank from both directions potentially.

 

[StormBreaker]

I have said already, Russia is a piss poor strategic ally. Iran was foolish to rely on them. Look at how many drones Iran has given and look at how Russia still has not delivered Su35s( which are most likely deliberately delayed by Russia to allow this operation to succeed !!!! )

What benefit is it to Russia to see iran crumble to Israel?

 

[Ali_Baba]

You can't the sky without an airforce; but a good AD will at least prevent your enemy from controlling your country's sky. AD is an essential building block of a capable AF. Without that the Russians were an example.

the two compliment each other... @Emirzad was one of those who argued that Irans AD and IADS was the best and no one knew what they were talking about with his long posts.

All of his points have been shot down .. i wonder what is thinking of what is happening of his fabled IADS right now???

 

[Immortals]

Everyone is underestimating Iran if you go by their history alone.

• They endured US/Israel sponsored bombings done by Iraq, all oilfields destroyed, every day for 8 years and never surrendered until Saddam lost it all.
• they also endured 35+ years of sanctions to the teeth and did not buckle
• Why would they break down after just a few days of Israel's measly bombings compared to all else that has been done to them ?

Two major differences.

1) Iraq was also incompetent in 1980’s in battlefield tactics just like a revolutionary purged Iranian military

2) Iran had F-14 which was still the F-22 of its day and kept Iranian airspace secure. It got to the point where whenever a F-14 was detected, Iraqi MiGs would immediately retreat the airspace.


Iran is now facing a strong military backed Israel and now has no equivalent to F-14 to guard its skies and has lost its skies to Israel.

So both those factors mean it’s a whole different ballgame this time around. The only thing in Iran’s favor is that Israel cannot launch a land war.

 

[RescueRanger]

Neighbours need good neighbours.

Slightly off topic but this part your post reminded me of the opening song to Ausi TV drama "Neighbours".

 

[PakAl]

How do you know

I am ISI lol. Khawaja Asif mentioned this in NA assembly session. Not sure why he's becoming aggressive.

 

[Blueishere]

Land? You will never land what you think this is rambo movie they will have airsuperiority they will be able to land not the other way around besides these missiles can´t do much damage to such large countries. Two weeks? You think there are 3 people in the GCC. they are 65 million they have 3 times as large army in manpower with better equipment. UAE alone can destroy Iran infrastracture, all assets plus put troops on the ground I said this back in 2018 or 2019 some laughed at me but I didn´t care I was pragmatic which proves me right today.. I only look at equipment and arsenal don´t care much for hyperbolic elements

Where did you get the 65 million number from?

Possibly but if Iranian current government is pro India and Russia, also anti GCC then what can Pakistan do. Pakistan policy is different from current Iran, we want nothing to do with middleeast or Israel whilst Iran does. We could have been allies before the war if our interests aligned but they didn't. Israel has already succeeded, they are freely destroying Iran, they will destroy Iran nuclear and ballistic missiles capability, most likely target economic infrastructure and send Iran back 40 years, this will lead to Iranian government being toppled or Iranians will live like how Iraqis/Syrian lived and then after a decade remove the government.

Lets not be this pessimistic.

 

[mulj]

The Iranian internal security has really slept on the job or perhaps the leadership was working with Mossad. I mean how could Mossad build this huge network without being detected? Heads need to roll here.

Lot of internal stupid policies tend to slip fragile individuals towards foreign influenced operations and hypocrisy among elites does not sit well with ordinary folks.
They did not eased of social valve pressure and it turned into hatred towards country, iranians are honorable people and do not like blatant injustice, especially if it is based under illogical principles and unaccountable faulty practices by authorities.

 

[F-22Raptor]

First it was 3,000 then 2,000 and Bibi himself said 20,000 now this loser says less than 1,000.

Like I said garbage analysis. The western “Russia” OSINT arm chair generals are now changing hats and becoming Iranian OSINT armchair generals.

Hilarious

You’re still living in your own fantasy if you believe Iran can sustain fire rates of 100-200 ballistic missiles per day beyond another 10-20 days.

And I already explained to you why this conflict is different from the Russian one. Israel has air superiority over Iran. Ukraine doesn’t over Russia.

 

[Yasser76]

Iranians, please never forget

Pakistan stands in ‘complete solidarity’ with Iran amid conflict with Israel: PM Shehbaz

"Cannot afford Iran conflict to turn into Iraq 2.0 or WWIII," says Bilawal; Defence Minister Khawaja Asif says Pakistan will “safeguard Iran’s interests”.

www.dawn.com

https://www.firstpost.com/world/israeli-pm-netanyahu-speaks-to-pm-modi-other-global-leaders-amid-escalating-iran-conflict-13896977.html

 

[Cash gk]

Is that true?

 

[MS Sandhu]

If any country can face cruel israel among all the muslim countries in these times, its Iran. All muslim countries need to back them or wait for their turn. The US-israel alliance wont stop until they neutralize all strong muslim countries and Pakistan could be next after Iran.

It should be Turkey next in line
Why Pakistan?
We are not part of Middle East Great Games .