Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

You live in an occupied country, your congressmen wear IDF uniforms, pledge allegiance to "Israel" and place their flag in their offices. JFK got killed for opposing their nuke program. Some younger republicans see that, you are likely too brainwashed already after so many years.
Far from it.

I went to engineering school with Iranians who may now be your fathers and mothers. Good people. Was a damn shame when President Carter kicked them out of the country.

JFK was killed because he was drawing up plans to withdraw from Southeast Asia. He knew it was a lost cause in 1962.
 
Turkey and Pakistan can help Iran by immediately declaring a Temporary Alliance with Iran and sending in their own Air Force to help strike IDF planes that are performing sorties on Iran and and flying in supplies of drones and AD systems to Iran.

They can call this Alliance "Joint Islamic Defence Shield" and its War Goal is to fight Israel till it agrees to a ceasefire and Iran's right to enrich.

If not, fight to the bitter end. 2 billion Muslims' hearts all beat as one to counter the Demonic State.


Trust me those crack Pakistani fighter pilots can shoot down those Israeli F35 like a Turkey shoot

Iran then can go to town with its ballistic missiles

Turkey doesn't even need to join
 
Seriously, there isn't even one patriot in the entire establishment, IRGC or Artesh to finish this ridiculous mess?
Well many of the people in the establishment are veterans of the Iran-Iraq war, so must be some patriots.
 
The first 18 hours really took a lot of bite out of the Iranian capability. Even the look at what Iran achieved with just 200 or so missiles, imagine of they had been able to safeguard their missile cities and deploy large volume of offensive activity against Israel they could have easily overwhelmed Israeli much vaunted "shield".

And the answer lies in the first 6 minutes of this video: The so-called 'peacemaker' President Trump was 'negotiating' with Iran while also facilitating the attack by Israel. I had said many times in the Gaza war thread that Trump would prove even worse than Biden in the Middle East and he has certainly done that. And it will give me some joy if he deports those Muslim Imams in America who took selfies with him and supported him in the 2024 elections. Trump has proven even more of a Zionist then Biden was if that even possible.

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Do areas east of Tehran have a better established air defense or Israel just cannot go that far (or doesn't feel need to operate there )?
 
Lol what kind of intelligence we can provide to Iranians?
Start flying AWACS near or just across the border openly, and declare it as such, similar to how the US does near or in Ukraine. Share Israeli flight data with Iran. Give it fighter jet escorts, so Israel doesn't think about doing anything stupid.
 
You shout like a clown, and accuse China of betrayal?

1. China is not a subordinate of Iran, and you are not qualified to point fingers at China.

2. The JCPOA is the United States and the West tearing up the contract and sanctioning Iran, not China and Russia.

3 Tehran Metro, China has completed the preliminary works, and the subsequent equipment supply and Iranian capital chain were broken due to US sanctions, and China did not give up on its own initiative.

4. The Chabahar port is exempted from US sanctions by India, and you transferred the port operation rights to India, but China still supports the construction of the port.

5. Technical cooperation in the nuclear field: China supports Iran's right to the peaceful use of nuclear energy. For example, during the development of Iran's domestically produced nuclear fuel rods, China opposed the United States blocking its legitimate technological development and defended Iran at the International Atomic Energy Agency.

6. Oil trade: Despite U.S. sanctions, China imported a record 850,000 b/d of Iranian crude oil in 2021, and maintained cooperation through third-party transshipment and RMB settlement.

7. China assisted Iran in listing the renminbi as its main foreign exchange currency and storing crude oil in the Dalian Free Trade Zone to safeguard oil export revenues.

And what did Iran do to China?

1. After the United States reimposed sanctions, Iran unilaterally suspended crude oil deliveries to China United Petrochemical Corporation (UNIPEC) and other companies, resulting in the forced adjustment of the supply chain of Chinese refineries.

2. After PetroChina (CNPC) succeeded Total in the development of the South Pars Phase 11 project, Iran delayed the approval on the grounds of "technical standards do not meet", resulting in the stalling of the project.

3. Iran imposes anti-dumping duties of up to 40% on steel and chemical exports from China, violating the "mutual market opening" clause in the "China-Iran 25-year cooperation agreement".
Again dude, this guy ShappurII is an anti Iran agent, stop coming under his tricks. He is running around badmouthing Iran and trying to turn everyone against Iran. Go through his post. Most of his posts are Anti Iran and Pro Israel. His views have nothing to do with Iran or Iran's policies or what common Iranians think of China. Iran just thanked China yesterday in the UN. This guy is a nobody creating lies about Iran and Iranians.
 
Anyway, even if Pakistan want to join the war to aid Iran in the defense of their country, there isn't much Pakistan can do because if they send direct military assistance by deploying fighter jets it will expose them more open to Indian Aggression if Pak reduces the amount of assets they have back home to deter India. So Iran can't expect much from Pak due to Indian Undeclared Alliance with Israel.
 
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You shout like a clown, and accuse China of betrayal?

1. China is not a subordinate of Iran, and you are not qualified to point fingers at China.

2. The JCPOA is the United States and the West tearing up the contract and sanctioning Iran, not China and Russia.

3 Tehran Metro, China has completed the preliminary works, and the subsequent equipment supply and Iranian capital chain were broken due to US sanctions, and China did not give up on its own initiative.

4. The Chabahar port is exempted from US sanctions by India, and you transferred the port operation rights to India, but China still supports the construction of the port.

5. Technical cooperation in the nuclear field: China supports Iran's right to the peaceful use of nuclear energy. For example, during the development of Iran's domestically produced nuclear fuel rods, China opposed the United States blocking its legitimate technological development and defended Iran at the International Atomic Energy Agency.

6. Oil trade: Despite U.S. sanctions, China imported a record 850,000 b/d of Iranian crude oil in 2021, and maintained cooperation through third-party transshipment and RMB settlement.

7. China assisted Iran in listing the renminbi as its main foreign exchange currency and storing crude oil in the Dalian Free Trade Zone to safeguard oil export revenues.

And what did Iran do to China?

1. After the United States reimposed sanctions, Iran unilaterally suspended crude oil deliveries to China United Petrochemical Corporation (UNIPEC) and other companies, resulting in the forced adjustment of the supply chain of Chinese refineries.

2. After PetroChina (CNPC) succeeded Total in the development of the South Pars Phase 11 project, Iran delayed the approval on the grounds of "technical standards do not meet", resulting in the stalling of the project.

3. Iran imposes anti-dumping duties of up to 40% on steel and chemical exports from China, violating the "mutual market opening" clause in the "China-Iran 25-year cooperation agreement".
So, you basically verified all my points about China and didn't deny any of them. Obviously, you can't deny them because they're facts. Now everyone here can see why China is not to be seen as a reliable partner after a long list of betrayals. Point proven, thanks.

CNPC left South Pars due to US sanctions, not technical delays. Iran never suspended crude oil deliveries due to US sanctions. It is stupid and ridiculous to even claim that because why would Iran stop oil delivers when it is sanctioned? It makes no sense.
China was obligated to invest 40 billion dollars in Iran in a period of 5 years. Did you do that?
 
The fact you just backed off from posting a comment you say I made up tells everyone here everything they need to know about you.

Don't be a coward, post it.
I haven't backed out of anything buttercup. I'm waiting for your education.

Fine I'll educate you myself since it looks like you need it. A 707 tanker can ONLY refuel 6 fighters when carrying 50k lbs of transfer fuel the KC-46 65k of transfer fuel that's about 8-9 fighters depending what kind of fighters. Uh-oh!!!! Something is wrong with the math Mr. Consultant. We have dozens of fighters used likely over a hundred with likely only 5 tankers mission capable.

That consultant tittle you gave yourself is laughable.
 
No detonation or secondry explosions.

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Ok so if iran used decoy convoys this could mean one thing

They are organizing their assets and preparing to launch an attack
 

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