Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

The first 18 hours really took a lot of bite out of the Iranian capability. Even the look at what Iran achieved with just 200 or so missiles, imagine of they had been able to safeguard their missile cities and deploy large volume of offensive activity against Israel they could have easily overwhelmed Israeli much vaunted "shield".

And the answer lies in the first 6 minutes of this video: The so-called 'peacemaker' President Trump was 'negotiating' with Iran while also facilitating the attack by Israel. I had said many times in the Gaza war thread that Trump would prove even worse than Biden in the Middle East and he has certainly done that. And it will give me some joy if he deports those Muslim Imams in America who took selfies with him and supported him in the 2024 elections. Trump has proven even more of a Zionist then Biden was if that even possible.

 
Do areas east of Tehran have a better established air defense or Israel just cannot go that far (or doesn't feel need to operate there )?
 
Lol what kind of intelligence we can provide to Iranians?
Start flying AWACS near or just across the border openly, and declare it as such, similar to how the US does near or in Ukraine. Share Israeli flight data with Iran. Give it fighter jet escorts, so Israel doesn't think about doing anything stupid.
 
You shout like a clown, and accuse China of betrayal?

1. China is not a subordinate of Iran, and you are not qualified to point fingers at China.

2. The JCPOA is the United States and the West tearing up the contract and sanctioning Iran, not China and Russia.

3 Tehran Metro, China has completed the preliminary works, and the subsequent equipment supply and Iranian capital chain were broken due to US sanctions, and China did not give up on its own initiative.

4. The Chabahar port is exempted from US sanctions by India, and you transferred the port operation rights to India, but China still supports the construction of the port.

5. Technical cooperation in the nuclear field: China supports Iran's right to the peaceful use of nuclear energy. For example, during the development of Iran's domestically produced nuclear fuel rods, China opposed the United States blocking its legitimate technological development and defended Iran at the International Atomic Energy Agency.

6. Oil trade: Despite U.S. sanctions, China imported a record 850,000 b/d of Iranian crude oil in 2021, and maintained cooperation through third-party transshipment and RMB settlement.

7. China assisted Iran in listing the renminbi as its main foreign exchange currency and storing crude oil in the Dalian Free Trade Zone to safeguard oil export revenues.

And what did Iran do to China?

1. After the United States reimposed sanctions, Iran unilaterally suspended crude oil deliveries to China United Petrochemical Corporation (UNIPEC) and other companies, resulting in the forced adjustment of the supply chain of Chinese refineries.

2. After PetroChina (CNPC) succeeded Total in the development of the South Pars Phase 11 project, Iran delayed the approval on the grounds of "technical standards do not meet", resulting in the stalling of the project.

3. Iran imposes anti-dumping duties of up to 40% on steel and chemical exports from China, violating the "mutual market opening" clause in the "China-Iran 25-year cooperation agreement".
Again dude, this guy ShappurII is an anti Iran agent, stop coming under his tricks. He is running around badmouthing Iran and trying to turn everyone against Iran. Go through his post. Most of his posts are Anti Iran and Pro Israel. His views have nothing to do with Iran or Iran's policies or what common Iranians think of China. Iran just thanked China yesterday in the UN. This guy is a nobody creating lies about Iran and Iranians.
 
Anyway, even if Pakistan want to join the war to aid Iran in the defense of their country, there isn't much Pakistan can do because if they send direct military assistance by deploying fighter jets it will expose them more open to Indian Aggression if Pak reduces the amount of assets they have back home to deter India. So Iran can't expect much from Pak due to Indian Undeclared Alliance with Israel.
 
You shout like a clown, and accuse China of betrayal?

1. China is not a subordinate of Iran, and you are not qualified to point fingers at China.

2. The JCPOA is the United States and the West tearing up the contract and sanctioning Iran, not China and Russia.

3 Tehran Metro, China has completed the preliminary works, and the subsequent equipment supply and Iranian capital chain were broken due to US sanctions, and China did not give up on its own initiative.

4. The Chabahar port is exempted from US sanctions by India, and you transferred the port operation rights to India, but China still supports the construction of the port.

5. Technical cooperation in the nuclear field: China supports Iran's right to the peaceful use of nuclear energy. For example, during the development of Iran's domestically produced nuclear fuel rods, China opposed the United States blocking its legitimate technological development and defended Iran at the International Atomic Energy Agency.

6. Oil trade: Despite U.S. sanctions, China imported a record 850,000 b/d of Iranian crude oil in 2021, and maintained cooperation through third-party transshipment and RMB settlement.

7. China assisted Iran in listing the renminbi as its main foreign exchange currency and storing crude oil in the Dalian Free Trade Zone to safeguard oil export revenues.

And what did Iran do to China?

1. After the United States reimposed sanctions, Iran unilaterally suspended crude oil deliveries to China United Petrochemical Corporation (UNIPEC) and other companies, resulting in the forced adjustment of the supply chain of Chinese refineries.

2. After PetroChina (CNPC) succeeded Total in the development of the South Pars Phase 11 project, Iran delayed the approval on the grounds of "technical standards do not meet", resulting in the stalling of the project.

3. Iran imposes anti-dumping duties of up to 40% on steel and chemical exports from China, violating the "mutual market opening" clause in the "China-Iran 25-year cooperation agreement".
So, you basically verified all my points about China and didn't deny any of them. Obviously, you can't deny them because they're facts. Now everyone here can see why China is not to be seen as a reliable partner after a long list of betrayals. Point proven, thanks.

CNPC left South Pars due to US sanctions, not technical delays. Iran never suspended crude oil deliveries due to US sanctions. It is stupid and ridiculous to even claim that because why would Iran stop oil delivers when it is sanctioned? It makes no sense.
China was obligated to invest 40 billion dollars in Iran in a period of 5 years. Did you do that?
 
The fact you just backed off from posting a comment you say I made up tells everyone here everything they need to know about you.

Don't be a coward, post it.
I haven't backed out of anything buttercup. I'm waiting for your education.

Fine I'll educate you myself since it looks like you need it. A 707 tanker can ONLY refuel 6 fighters when carrying 50k lbs of transfer fuel the KC-46 65k of transfer fuel that's about 8-9 fighters depending what kind of fighters. Uh-oh!!!! Something is wrong with the math Mr. Consultant. We have dozens of fighters used likely over a hundred with likely only 5 tankers mission capable.

That consultant tittle you gave yourself is laughable.
 
A very well worded response by Pakistan. One nation can't start bombing 3-4 Regional nations (Palestine, Syria, Lebanon and now Iran), this view point was well explained by the Delegate member.

Highlighting actual charter of UN and postulates which govern laws of Self defence
The UN is a useless organization. Created by the whites to protect white interests.
 

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