Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[KingQamaR]

1. Pakistan is in no shape to help iran overtly against israel, we are in the midst of our own survival fight against a rabid behemoth of a neighbour whos every breath utters pakistans destruction. Although the recent skirmish showed us in good light in the air dept, their were many areas we need to plug holes. We have our own issues with a country with 10 times the resources of israel.

2. Financially pakistan in no position to extend support especially as they are being drip fed from IMF/World Bank.

3. Even if pakistan could support, its not a simple case of moving your air assets across to iranian bases and taking on israeli air force in a dog fight, pakistan would need to uproot and move the whole apparatus of air defence and logistics to another country. This is just not possible.

4. The levels of incompetence shown by Irans defence forces is mind boggling, the level of planning needed to anticipate such a scenario and how this wasnt war-gamed to death beggars belief. One wonders what mullahs/IRGV have actually been doing for the past 20+ years.

5. Large stale destruction is inevitable for Iran, With how compromised they are internally with the traitors within their midst, we dont really know how bad it really is.

But as they say if your going down, take the enemy down with you…..this is a fight to the death, rain hell on tel aviv, make the cost of continuation of this destruction unbearable for the enemy. No **** footing around, its the only language they know.

Its too late to look around for china and russia or pakistan, Iranian people are galvanised. You are a great nation. Israel is a blip in history.

InshaAllah Iran will prevail.

Pakistan and Iran share a border very easy to send help. What do you mean Pakistanis financially can’t afford it what does that actually mean? It’s not like Iran is 1000s miles away and we will have to transport it across the globe. That’s a very dumb argument you make.

 

[vmro]

There is no doubt in my mind. Iran needs the nuke and very fast. The moment Iran declares itself a nuclear power, Israel and Western powers will behave very differently.

It's not just about nukes, but new national concept of preserving just Yemenis and Iraqis from actual Axis, and new approached doctrine of national growth and expansion (figuratively and effectively)... Yemenis would be very important partner in that strategic re-positioning, while Iraq is there to stay...

But I don't give up on Hezbollah, still... If they come back with the vengeance, that's a different story...

 

[Blueishere]

Just a though that probably DHA isn't so bad, officers don't directly indulge in corruption, don't get bought off because they are given safety parachutes by the system.

If it takes DHA to not have internal chaos like Iran saw, I think its:

Not so bad. Not so bad at all.

DHA shouldn't exist. (Sorry for offtopic)

 

[mulj]

Why post it here?

Potential use of false flag aimed on Iran or Iran agents sabotage, pick your choice.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

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Parade them please and burn them alive, it's war time, no time for them, military and divine justice should be carried out.

 

[PakSword]

We are finished already. We cannot retake the control of our skies.

We need one patriot that finishes all this. Stage a coup and broadcast an announcement on national TV.

Or maybe we should wait to see what will happen tonight and then talk about it. But if Iran can't change the situation tonight, it is definitely over.

All the nations attacked by the western alliance will have to fight a gorilla war in the end, like how Vietnam or Afghanistan fought them. A lot of damage, but in the end, they had to run with their tails between their legs.

 

[Abid123]

Where are the Russians and Chinese in this?

Like what are they doing to help Iran?

For all their nukes and gas reserves, the Russians are painfully spineless. They posture like a superpower but when it matters, they fold. Don’t expect them to do anything, it’s all bluff and no substance.

 

[BigMela2onin]

1 hour after Iran’s refinery were hit, a refinery in Texas catches on fire. Quite possible it is not a “coincidence”.

Hmm maybe but I think it's probably just a coincidence. Idk if Iran put in the effort to infiltrate a random refinery outside Houston.

 

[KingQamaR]

I would suspect the USA if they needed to could execute the operation

Houthi’s blocked the Red Sea and US and NATO couldn’t do anything about that so imagine what Iran can do.

 

[mangekyo]

I hope Russia is next

 

[Avicenna]

And people were mocking posters who discussed Pakistan on this thread.

Some of the members on this forum don't go beyond Pakistani borders.

One by one they picked off nations.

 

[Immortals]

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Who else is left?

 

[arjunk]

for the first time I feel sorry for GCC countries, they are American hostages. I used to hate their guts but they got no choice. they have no power. the western toys parked in their country will be snatched by the Americans deployed in their country.
All they have is some personal bodyguards armed with small arms and god knows how many of them are Mossad, CIA and MI6 operatives.

They brought this upon themeslves. The GCC rulers are as jaahil as our 2 takka sardars and feudal lords. They were blessed with oil money and custody of the Holy Sites and they squandered it. Now they face punishment.

Just like the Iranians and Kemalists, the Arabs believed they were some superior supa powa race playing 5d chess by ignoring the dirty ummah-chummah pakistanis and cozying up to India and Israel. In reality the Arabs and Iranians were merely pawns and useful idiots in a greater game.

 

[That_Guy]

what about USs bunker busters?

Limited in capacity. Iranian bases as specifically designed precisely to be able to withstand US bunker busters. They're so far deep that there are no known bombs that can reach that depth.

This is why Israel has had no choice but to target Iranian entrance ways, because they have no way to get to the targets inside the bases.

 

[MastanKhan]

for my interest could you explain in lesser words and tag me in that post?
please!

Hi,

" when the birds will return to the land of zion and establish control---then the messiah will return---"---. Not these exact word but similar to it---.

The birds are the jews who flew away---ie left the land---and when they come back and establish themselves back again----it will be the second coming of Christ---.

What the evangelists have forgotten to understand is that the zionists are not jews of palestine---they are not the jews of the land---. They do not have a true heritage to this land t---.

So---to me---the prophecy is going to be stuck somewhere between to be or not to be ---.

Muslims will be brutalized and killed---what I cannot comprehend is suppose if the Messiah showed up---whose side will he tke---the evangelists who have murdered more muslims or the Iranian shias who have murdered a lesser number---.