Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

American official: We are still not interested in direct military involvement alongside Israel in targeting Iranian nuclear facilities

What the United States hopes for is Iran's return to the negotiating table and achieving peace
Exactly what I was going to say in a response I was preparing for #17,437.
 
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half the side of the building on the left fell off just from the shockwave of the Iranian missile landing hundreds of metres away!
 
Yeah I’m with you do I think china is doing something definitely but who knows what’s on the plane, if it is anti aircraft defenses it would have to be manned by Chinese otherwise it would be destroyed before being operational the Chinese would tell the Israelis don’t second guess we won’t annihilate you and have trump watch from the sidelines
The most useful thing China can do at this point is to deliver a nuke or two to Iran. Not to be used, bust just as a deterrence. Israel can lose their mind, nobody knows. And Iran informing them that they can be hit back will make them crawl back into their rat holes permanently.

Iranians people have a high tolerance for losses. Its the nukes that can make things go the wrong way for Iran, especially if Israel decides to go for any fortified sites of Iran. You never know how low these Israeli SOBs can fall.
 
People are celebrating in Lebanon while i$rahell is being wiped out !

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140 casualties just in Tel Aviv tonight (3 killed)
I’m guessing they’re going to have to remove a lot of rubble to find people oh well like people said time for Israel to taste their own medicine, also from what has been going in the media this hits on residential building is because Israel puts military assets in those areas I think Israel calls it unintentional collateral damage
 
Respectfully, what has changed right now?

I wish the story was different but all I see is a gradual defeat for Iran here
1. Public support for the war is waning. Israelis are seeing what war is like for the first time in their negligible history.
2. Main refinery producing jet fuel for the IDF has been hit and most likely destroyed because it burned for quite some time. So, something flammable has been hit for sure.

Both are important developments.
 
The most useful thing China can do at this point is to deliver a nuke or two to Iran. Not to be used, bust just as a deterrence. Israel can lose their mind, nobody knows. And Iran informing them that they can be hit back will make them crawl back into their rat holes permanently.

Iranians people have a high tolerance for losses. Its the nukes that can make things go the wrong way for Iran, especially if Israel decides to go for any fortified sites of Iran. You never know how low these Israeli SOBs can fall.
China never gave Koreans a nuke nor will they give Iran
 
@Tijani too

but we have the same cycle each day:

during the day Israel launches huge attacks throughout Iran and maximises propaganda, so we feel dejected and upset

during the night Iran launches large missile attacks and we see hypersonic missiles pierce through their buildings, and we feel positive again lol
Cheers to Tijani too!

Look I get it I couldn't believe what I was seeing either how easily Israel made it look and before Iran launch missiles I think we all thought that Israel likely took out a huge chunk of the launchers.

But them two guys for some weird reason didn't get faze one bit.
 
The Iranian military is launching missiles at night from its launchers to give a highest chance of success.

And it seems IAF has limitations targeting the launchers in the darkness of night.

Does Iran have any EW or jamming infrastructure to deny IAF air superiority inside Iran.
 
You lived here for awhile; when it comes to political spin and the average American voter, we're pretty good at getting them on board.

Spin doctors likely have several narratives ready to go.

I was speaking relatively.

The first one is a no brainer and will automatically unite the American public against Iran.

But the second one will require spin, as you mentioned, and Trump (who promised to be the 'peacemaker' and to end wars) will have to work a bit harder. Trump also will have less justification to jump into a war with all the troubles at home with ICE etc.

Remember, all the spin machines in the world cannot hide the fact that Israel started this latest war.
 

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