The Evolution of PAF's JF-17 Thunder through OCU [Operational Capability Upgrade] - News, Updates, Possibilities & Discussions.

After getting little bit better economy they start feeling super power and start playing even with established super powers and you see the result humiliation on the hands of Pakistan and national humiliation from the west.

They have seeped into every business in the western world. Cities of San Fran, Virginia, NYC, Houston, Dallas, is crawling with them. Like termites they are expanding their corrupted mindset and will destroy the western civilization.
 
They have seeped into every business in the western world. Cities of San Fran, Virginia, NYC, Houston, Dallas, is crawling with them. Like termites they are expanding their corrupted mindset and will destroy the western civilization.
Brother wait few more years western countries will start sending them back in cargo ships they are so fed-up with them.
 
i was working for a multi national company, and my area of sales included Asia Pacific, which ofcourse had India in it.
One of the sales came in for Indian Air Force and I did not wanna approve a massive discount for them but my boss being an Indian got on a call and told the sales team in India that we can approve the discount, and I question him right there in the call on his push, and this is all internal call within the company.
so my boss logic was we should do it because IAF is such a prestigious institute and it’s highly regarded, and me having Pakistani roots was laughing over his comment.
Knowing how God allowed PaF to humble IAF for the last 70 years made me wonder how massively distorted and liars these indians are.. its ingrained in them
That's their mentality. Since we Pakistanis inherit a lot of the same genes of the sub continent and we are similar physically and cognitively, despite the mumbo jumbo religious-ethnic-racial borderlines, Pakistanis dont do this. But Indians do. They take pride that CEO of Google USA and xyz is Indian, when it only shows that Indians thrive in USA and developed world and not their own land.

Which is similar to Pakistan.

But this ingrained superiority complex they have everywhere they work, whether UAE or USA, even though they will never want to go back and live in India, this has to be some next level shit brainwashing in their education system from early child hood.

Chinese don't compare themselves with Indians.
Pakistanis don't compare themselves with Afghanis.
Indians always compare themselves with Pakistan to feel good.
 

Hi,

That is just "feel good information"---. The americans obliterated the iraqi mirages at first with their phoenix missiles from a 100 miles away and then later thru their amraams---.

The Iraqi aircraft had an obsolete radar that could barely see about 3 miles---.

The iraqi pilots did not even know when the missile hiot their aircraft and when they died---.
its not a made up claim, I am forgetting the book where i read it
 
Hi,

That is just "feel good information"---. The americans obliterated the iraqi mirages at first with their phoenix missiles from a 100 miles away and then later thru their amraams---.

The Iraqi aircraft had an obsolete radar that could barely see about 3 miles---.

The iraqi pilots did not even know when the missile hiot their aircraft and when they died---.
They buried most of their air craft in sand.
 
its not a made up claim, I am forgetting the book where i read it
Hi,

You are not wrong about the claim---I also have come across it---.

It is just the way americans want it to be said----they just did not want the world to know that they obliterated the Iraqi pilots mercilessly---.
 
Hi,

That is just "feel good information"---. The americans obliterated the iraqi mirages at first with their phoenix missiles from a 100 miles away and then later thru their amraams---.

The Iraqi aircraft had an obsolete radar that could barely see about 3 miles---.

The iraqi pilots did not even know when the missile hiot their aircraft and when they died---.
Phoenix was never used in GW1 AFAIK.
Sparrows and Sidewinders were the ones doing the killing and perhaps one odd AIM-120A.

The Iranians used Phoenix against Iraq to good effect.

The book referred to is “Every man a tiger” by general Horner I believe.
 
Putting this table here for information purposes only. Any photos of the missing serial numbers would be appreciated.

Complete List of JF-17 Thunders Produced.

Aircraft No.
Number by Block
Block
Serial Number
Year
001​
01​
Prototype​
PT-01​
2003​
002​
02​
Prototype​
PT-02​
2003​
003​
03​
Prototype​
PT-03​
2004​
004​
04​
Prototype​
PT-04​
2006​
005​
05​
Prototype​
PT-05​
2006​
006​
06​
Prototype​
PT-06​
2006​
007​
01​
1A​
07-101​
2007​
008​
02​
1A​
07-102​
2007​
009​
03​
1A​
07-103​
2007​
010​
04​
1A​
07-104​
2007​
011​
05​
1A​
07-105​
2007​
012​
06​
1A​
08-106​
2008​
013​
07​
1A​
08-107​
2008​
014​
08​
1A​
08-108​
2008​
015​
09​
1A​
09-109​
2009​
016​
10​
1A​
09-110​
2009​
017​
11​
1A​
09-111​
2009​
018​
12​
1A​
09-112​
2009​
019​
13​
1A​
10-113​
2010​
020​
14​
1A​
10-114​
2010​
021​
15​
1A​
10-115​
2010​
022​
16​
1A​
10-116​
2010​
023​
17​
1A​
10-117​
2010​
024​
18​
1A​
10-118​
2010​
025​
19​
1A​
10-119​
2010​
026​
20​
1A​
10-120​
2010​
027​
21​
1A​
10-121​
2010​
028​
22​
1A​
10-122​
2010​
029​
23​
1A​
10-123​
2010​
030​
24​
1A​
10-124​
2010​
031​
25​
1A​
10-125​
2010​
032​
26​
1A​
10-126​
2010​
033
27
1A
10-127
2010
034​
28​
1A​
10-128​
2010​
035​
29​
1A​
11-129​
2011​
036​
30​
1A​
11-130​
2011​
037​
31​
1A​
11-131​
2011​
038​
32​
1A​
11-132​
2011​
039​
33​
1A​
11-133​
2011​
040​
34​
1A​
11-134​
2011​
041​
35​
1A​
11-135​
2011​
042​
36​
1A​
11-136​
2011​
043​
37​
1A​
12-137​
2012​
044​
38​
1A​
12-138​
2012​
045​
39​
1A​
12-139​
2012​
046​
40​
1A​
12-140​
2012​
047​
41​
1A​
12-141​
2012​
048​
42​
1A​
12-142​
2012​
049​
43​
1A​
13-143​
2013​
050​
44​
1A​
13-144​
2013​
051​
45​
1A​
13-145​
2013​
052​
46​
1A​
13-146​
2013​
053​
47​
1A​
13-147​
2013​
054​
48​
1A​
13-148​
2013​
055​
49​
1A​
13-149​
2013​
056​
50​
1A​
13-150​
2013​
057​
01​
2A​
15-201​
2015​
058​
02​
2A​
15-202​
2015​
059​
03​
2A​
15-203​
2015​
060​
04​
2A​
15-204​
2015​
061​
05​
2A​
15-205​
2015​
062​
06​
2A​
15-207​
2015​
063
07
2A
15-209
2015
064​
08​
2A​
15-211​
2015​
065​
09​
2A​
15-212​
2015​
066​
10​
2A​
15-213​
2015​
067​
11​
2A​
15-216​
2015​
068​
12​
2A​
16-206​
2016​
069​
13​
2A​
16-208​
2016​
070​
14​
2A​
16-210​
2016​
071​
15​
2A​
16-214​
2016​
072​
16​
2A​
16-215​
2016​
073​
17​
2A​
16-217​
2016​
074​
18​
2A​
16-218​
2016​
075​
19​
2A​
16-219​
2016​
076​
20​
2A​
16-220​
2016​
077​
21​
2A​
16-221​
2016​
078​
22​
2A​
16-222​
2016​
079​
23​
2A​
16-223​
2016​
080​
24​
2A​
16-224​
2016​
081​
25​
2A​
16-225​
]2016​
082​
26​
2A​
16-226​
2016​
083​
27​
2A​
16-227​
2016​
084​
28​
2A​
16-228​
2016​
085​
29​
2A​
16-229​
2016​
086​
30​
2A​
16-230​
2016​
087​
31​
2A​
16-231​
2016​
088​
32​
2A​
16-232​
2016​
089​
33​
2A​
16-233​
2016​
090​
34​
2A​
16-235​
2016​
091​
35​
2A​
17-234​
2017​
092​
36​
2A​
17-236​
2017​
093​
37​
2A​
17-237​
2017​
094​
38​
2A​
17-238​
2017​
095​
39​
2A​
17-239​
2017​
096​
40​
2A​
17-240​
2017​
097
41
2A
17-241
2017
098​
42​
2A​
17-242​
2017​
099​
43​
2A​
17-243​
2017​
100​
44​
2A​
17-244​
2017​
101​
45​
2A​
17-245​
2017​
102​
46​
2A​
17-246​
2017​
103​
47​
2A​
17-247​
2017​
104​
48​
2A​
17-248​
2017​
105​
49​
2A​
??-249​
2017​
106​
50​
2A​
??-250​
2017​
107​
51​
2B​
17-601​
2017​
108​
52​
2A​
17-01​
2017​
109​
53​
2A​
17-02​
2017​
110​
54​
2A​
17-03​
2017​
111​
55​
2A​
17-04​
2017​
112​
56​
2?​
??-??​
2017​
113​
57​
2?​
??-??​
2017​
114​
58​
2B​
17-07​
2017​
115​
59​
2?​
??-??​
2017​
116​
60​
2A​
18-251​
2018​
117​
61​
2A​
18-252​
2018​
118​
62​
2A​
18-253​
2018​
119​
63​
2A​
18-254​
]2018​
120​
64​
2A​
18-255​
2018​
121​
65​
2A​
18-256​
2018​
122​
66​
2A​
19-257​
2019​
123​
67​
2A​
19-258​
2019​
124​
68​
2A​
19-259​
2019​
125​
69​
2A​
NAF-720​
2019​
126​
70​
2A​
NAF-720​
2019​
127​
71​
2A​
NAF-720​
2019​
128​
72​
2B​
19-602​
2019​
129​
73​
2B​
19-603​
2019​
130​
74​
2B​
19-604​
2019​
131​
75​
2B​
19-605​
2019​
132​
76​
2B​
19-606​
2019​
133​
77​
2B​
19-607​
2019​
134​
78​
2B​
19-608​
2019​
135​
79​
2B​
19-609​
2019​
136​
80​
2B​
19-610​
2019​
137​
81​
2B​
19-611​
2019​
138​
82​
2B​
19-612​
2019​
139​
01​
3A​
??-301​
2019​
140​
83​
2B​
20-613​
2020​
141
84
2B
20-614
2020
142​
85​
2B​
20-615​
2020​
143​
86​
2B​
20-616​
2020​
144​
87​
2B​
??-617​
2020​
145​
88​
2B​
??-618​
2020​
146​
89​
2B​
??-619​
2020​
147​
90​
2B​
??-620​
2020​
148​
91​
2B​
??-621​
2020​
149​
92​
2B​
20-622​
2020​
150​
93​
2B​
??-623​
2020​
151​
94​
2B​
??-624​
2020​
152​
95​
2B​
??-625​
2020​
153​
96​
2B​
20-626​
2020​
154​
02​
3A​
??-302​
2021​
155​
03​
3A​
??-303​
2022​
156​
04​
3A​
??-304​
2022​
157​
05​
3A​
22-305​
2022​
158​
06​
3A​
22-306​
2022​
159​
07​
3A​
22-307​
2022​
160​
08​
3A​
22-308​
2022​
161​
09​
3A​
22-309​
2022​
162​
10​
3A​
??-310​
2022​
163​
11​
3A​
22-311​
2022​
164​
12​
3A​
22-312​
2022​
165​
13​
3A​
22-313​
2022​
166​
14​
3A​
22-314​
2022​
167​
15​
3A​
??-315​
2022​
168​
16​
3A​
??-316​
2022​
169​
17​
3A​
22-317​
2022​
170​
18​
3A​
23-318​
2023​
171​
19​
3A​
23-319​
2023​
172​
20​
3A​
23-320​
2023​
173​
21​
3A​
??-321​
2023​
174​
22​
3A​
??-322​
2023​
175​
23​
3A​
23-323​
2023​

Notes:
  • 4 rows that have a strike line through them, these contain the serial numbers for crashed aircraft.
  • Where double question mark are showing instead of numbers, these serial numbers have not been spotted publicly yet, therefore, their year is assumed.

If you spot any errors/anomalies in the data, please point these out.
 
Putting this table here for information purposes only. Any photos of the missing serial numbers would be appreciated.

Complete List of JF-17 Thunders Produced.

Aircraft No.
Number by Block
Block
Serial Number
Year
001​
01​
Prototype​
PT-01​
2003​
002​
02​
Prototype​
PT-02​
2003​
003​
03​
Prototype​
PT-03​
2004​
004​
04​
Prototype​
PT-04​
2006​
005​
05​
Prototype​
PT-05​
2006​
006​
06​
Prototype​
PT-06​
2006​
007​
01​
1A​
07-101​
2007​
008​
02​
1A​
07-102​
2007​
009​
03​
1A​
07-103​
2007​
010​
04​
1A​
07-104​
2007​
011​
05​
1A​
07-105​
2007​
012​
06​
1A​
08-106​
2008​
013​
07​
1A​
08-107​
2008​
014​
08​
1A​
08-108​
2008​
015​
09​
1A​
09-109​
2009​
016​
10​
1A​
09-110​
2009​
017​
11​
1A​
09-111​
2009​
018​
12​
1A​
09-112​
2009​
019​
13​
1A​
10-113​
2010​
020​
14​
1A​
10-114​
2010​
021​
15​
1A​
10-115​
2010​
022​
16​
1A​
10-116​
2010​
023​
17​
1A​
10-117​
2010​
024​
18​
1A​
10-118​
2010​
025​
19​
1A​
10-119​
2010​
026​
20​
1A​
10-120​
2010​
027​
21​
1A​
10-121​
2010​
028​
22​
1A​
10-122​
2010​
029​
23​
1A​
10-123​
2010​
030​
24​
1A​
10-124​
2010​
031​
25​
1A​
10-125​
2010​
032​
26​
1A​
10-126​
2010​
033
27
1A
10-127
2010
034​
28​
1A​
10-128​
2010​
035​
29​
1A​
11-129​
2011​
036​
30​
1A​
11-130​
2011​
037​
31​
1A​
11-131​
2011​
038​
32​
1A​
11-132​
2011​
039​
33​
1A​
11-133​
2011​
040​
34​
1A​
11-134​
2011​
041​
35​
1A​
11-135​
2011​
042​
36​
1A​
11-136​
2011​
043​
37​
1A​
12-137​
2012​
044​
38​
1A​
12-138​
2012​
045​
39​
1A​
12-139​
2012​
046​
40​
1A​
12-140​
2012​
047​
41​
1A​
12-141​
2012​
048​
42​
1A​
12-142​
2012​
049​
43​
1A​
13-143​
2013​
050​
44​
1A​
13-144​
2013​
051​
45​
1A​
13-145​
2013​
052​
46​
1A​
13-146​
2013​
053​
47​
1A​
13-147​
2013​
054​
48​
1A​
13-148​
2013​
055​
49​
1A​
13-149​
2013​
056​
50​
1A​
13-150​
2013​
057​
01​
2A​
15-201​
2015​
058​
02​
2A​
15-202​
2015​
059​
03​
2A​
15-203​
2015​
060​
04​
2A​
15-204​
2015​
061​
05​
2A​
15-205​
2015​
062​
06​
2A​
15-207​
2015​
063
07
2A
15-209
2015
064​
08​
2A​
15-211​
2015​
065​
09​
2A​
15-212​
2015​
066​
10​
2A​
15-213​
2015​
067​
11​
2A​
15-216​
2015​
068​
12​
2A​
16-206​
2016​
069​
13​
2A​
16-208​
2016​
070​
14​
2A​
16-210​
2016​
071​
15​
2A​
16-214​
2016​
072​
16​
2A​
16-215​
2016​
073​
17​
2A​
16-217​
2016​
074​
18​
2A​
16-218​
2016​
075​
19​
2A​
16-219​
2016​
076​
20​
2A​
16-220​
2016​
077​
21​
2A​
16-221​
2016​
078​
22​
2A​
16-222​
2016​
079​
23​
2A​
16-223​
2016​
080​
24​
2A​
16-224​
2016​
081​
25​
2A​
16-225​
]2016​
082​
26​
2A​
16-226​
2016​
083​
27​
2A​
16-227​
2016​
084​
28​
2A​
16-228​
2016​
085​
29​
2A​
16-229​
2016​
086​
30​
2A​
16-230​
2016​
087​
31​
2A​
16-231​
2016​
088​
32​
2A​
16-232​
2016​
089​
33​
2A​
16-233​
2016​
090​
34​
2A​
16-235​
2016​
091​
35​
2A​
17-234​
2017​
092​
36​
2A​
17-236​
2017​
093​
37​
2A​
17-237​
2017​
094​
38​
2A​
17-238​
2017​
095​
39​
2A​
17-239​
2017​
096​
40​
2A​
17-240​
2017​
097
41
2A
17-241
2017
098​
42​
2A​
17-242​
2017​
099​
43​
2A​
17-243​
2017​
100​
44​
2A​
17-244​
2017​
101​
45​
2A​
17-245​
2017​
102​
46​
2A​
17-246​
2017​
103​
47​
2A​
17-247​
2017​
104​
48​
2A​
17-248​
2017​
105​
49​
2A​
??-249​
2017​
106​
50​
2A​
??-250​
2017​
107​
51​
2B​
17-601​
2017​
108​
52​
2A​
17-01​
2017​
109​
53​
2A​
17-02​
2017​
110​
54​
2A​
17-03​
2017​
111​
55​
2A​
17-04​
2017​
112​
56​
2?​
??-??​
2017​
113​
57​
2?​
??-??​
2017​
114​
58​
2B​
17-07​
2017​
115​
59​
2?​
??-??​
2017​
116​
60​
2A​
18-251​
2018​
117​
61​
2A​
18-252​
2018​
118​
62​
2A​
18-253​
2018​
119​
63​
2A​
18-254​
]2018​
120​
64​
2A​
18-255​
2018​
121​
65​
2A​
18-256​
2018​
122​
66​
2A​
19-257​
2019​
123​
67​
2A​
19-258​
2019​
124​
68​
2A​
19-259​
2019​
125​
69​
2A​
NAF-720​
2019​
126​
70​
2A​
NAF-720​
2019​
127​
71​
2A​
NAF-720​
2019​
128​
72​
2B​
19-602​
2019​
129​
73​
2B​
19-603​
2019​
130​
74​
2B​
19-604​
2019​
131​
75​
2B​
19-605​
2019​
132​
76​
2B​
19-606​
2019​
133​
77​
2B​
19-607​
2019​
134​
78​
2B​
19-608​
2019​
135​
79​
2B​
19-609​
2019​
136​
80​
2B​
19-610​
2019​
137​
81​
2B​
19-611​
2019​
138​
82​
2B​
19-612​
2019​
139​
01​
3A​
??-301​
2019​
140​
83​
2B​
20-613​
2020​
141
84
2B
20-614
2020
142​
85​
2B​
20-615​
2020​
143​
86​
2B​
20-616​
2020​
144​
87​
2B​
??-617​
2020​
145​
88​
2B​
??-618​
2020​
146​
89​
2B​
??-619​
2020​
147​
90​
2B​
??-620​
2020​
148​
91​
2B​
??-621​
2020​
149​
92​
2B​
20-622​
2020​
150​
93​
2B​
??-623​
2020​
151​
94​
2B​
??-624​
2020​
152​
95​
2B​
??-625​
2020​
153​
96​
2B​
20-626​
2020​
154​
02​
3A​
??-302​
2021​
155​
03​
3A​
??-303​
2022​
156​
04​
3A​
??-304​
2022​
157​
05​
3A​
22-305​
2022​
158​
06​
3A​
22-306​
2022​
159​
07​
3A​
22-307​
2022​
160​
08​
3A​
22-308​
2022​
161​
09​
3A​
22-309​
2022​
162​
10​
3A​
??-310​
2022​
163​
11​
3A​
22-311​
2022​
164​
12​
3A​
22-312​
2022​
165​
13​
3A​
22-313​
2022​
166​
14​
3A​
22-314​
2022​
167​
15​
3A​
??-315​
2022​
168​
16​
3A​
??-316​
2022​
169​
17​
3A​
22-317​
2022​
170​
18​
3A​
23-318​
2023​
171​
19​
3A​
23-319​
2023​
172​
20​
3A​
23-320​
2023​
173​
21​
3A​
??-321​
2023​
174​
22​
3A​
??-322​
2023​
175​
23​
3A​
23-323​
2023​

Notes:
  • 4 rows that have a strike line through them, these contain the serial numbers for crashed aircraft.
  • Where double question mark are showing instead of numbers, these serial numbers have not been spotted publicly yet, therefore, their year is assumed.

If you spot any errors/anomalies in the data, please point these out.
So 160 in active duty if we minus prototypes and crashes. Have no idea if crashes were replaced or not. PAF needs to retire Block-1s. I think they re-armed Black Panthers with Block-IIIs. Need to replace them all but looks like all current production is geared towards fulfilling export order from Azerbaijan. Heck, we will have to wait till IDEAS 2026 to get any meaningful insight or information regarding OCU version.
 
So 160 in active duty if we minus prototypes and crashes. Have no idea if crashes were replaced or not. PAF needs to retire Block-1s. I think they re-armed Black Panthers with Block-IIIs. Need to replace them all but looks like all current production is geared towards fulfilling export order from Azerbaijan. Heck, we will have to wait till IDEAS 2026 to get any meaningful insight or information regarding OCU version.
Total for PAF
Block-1A = 50
Block-2A = 59
Block-2B = 26
Block-3A = 23

Total: 158
Crashed: 4

Active: 154
 
Would be nice to see JF17 Block I , II , IIB and III hit double century mark
"200" long overdue
 

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