Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Shags101]

his son actually died in Dubai

Rezaee is pretty hardline guy who fought in the Iran-Iraq war

Okay you definitely know better than me I’m thinking the moderates and reformists

The site is 80meters minimum to 200M in some places underground, i doubt there is anything in the world that can penetrate 240feet to 600 feet deep, and that too concrete enforced.
Even GBU 57 which the heaviest bomb in US arsenal can penetrate no more than 200 feet.

isrselis tactic is to strike the same point over and over until they can penetrate remember Natalia’s sinwar 10s of tons ordnance you keep hitting the same spot over and over again not saying this would work in this situation but just a scenario

 

[Kharral]

missile launches per day (estimates):

day 1 - 200
day 2 - 70
day 3 - 40

Interception & Impact percentage adds context to these figures.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

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I call BS on this.

Maybe. Maybe not.

I have a pretty solid foundation in geotechnical engineering (practiced civil and construction for 20+ years). It will take a lot more than just measuring the ejecta from a bomb crater to determine the soil conditions at depth.

Could it be done? Sure. Would it be accurate enough to go to the bank with? Absolutely not. Nothing beats a true geotechnical survey of the site including extensive borings to the depths intended for an underground facility.

GPR could do a survey as well but you'll still want to back that up with the above.

He may have talked with a geologist or a geotechnical engineer and I'm positive they would have told him the same thing I'm saying here.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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unconfirmed propaganda for now

seems unlikely considering they haven't made any serious efforts to penetrate the concrete above the facility

but even if it true, the Fordow site is the most important site for now (plus the undeclared site at Qazvin provided Iran managed to install centrifuges and move some material there)

 

[the saint]

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[Falcon29]

Here we go

 

[The SC]

Iranian cyber attack?

Most likely the electrical grids were hit..

 

[Immortals]

Had a really excellent guy from Far East South Asia Strategic Studies (mouth full) think tank - he was an excellent guy, explained that the 5,000lbs bombs Isreal have are just not able to penetrate the reinforced concrete - so what they do is hit the same site several times with the aim of causing a breach - that is what you are seeing those mounts being covered again.

That strategy doesn’t work on mountain bedrock. It might work on Natanz that is artificial bunker, not on natural formation.

He went on to say what Israel wants from the US is the 30,000lbs MOP - but the US have so far not been keen to provide this to Israel (Crazy I know, US saying NO to Israel) - perhaps even they know Bibi is mentally unhinged and would end up irradiating half of the middle east, gulf and South Asia for his own "personal glory" and blood lust.

This is incorrect. Israel doesn’t even have a plane that can carry that. Do you realize that?

A MOAB needs either a B-2 or a B-52. Neither of which are in Israeli inventory.

Even if Israel took a military cargo plane and tried to Jerry right a MOAB to it, it would be suicide mission to send a cargo plane into heart of Iran. It would light up on every radar even Iran’s F-4’s could shoot it down. Hell even an S-200 could shoot it down.

Israel needs US to destroy Fordow. And it’s not even the biggest strongest enrichment hall, title belongs to the newly christened Natanz Tunnel Complex which is rumored to be a much larger version of Fordow complex and buried 75-150 meters underground.

Israel has zero chance hurting this if it can’t even dent Fordow.

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[Persian Gulf]

Here we go

what? I don't see anything yet.

 

[mangekyo]

Rezaee married in 1974. He has five children, two sons and three daughters. His eldest son, Ahmad, migrated to the United States in 1998 and sought political asylum
Not going to lie I’m thinking this guy looks shady as hell I’m going to look him up of course his son is in America just saying weird right not actually trying to be funny you never know

if he looks shady then it’s not him. It’s always those you expect the least

 

[Falcon29]

Here we go

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[Persian Gulf]

That strategy doesn’t work on mountain bedrock. It might work on Natanz that is artificial bunker, not on natural formation.



This is incorrect. Israel doesn’t even have a plane that can carry that. Do you realize that?

A MOAB needs either a B-2 or a B-52. Neither of which are in Israeli inventory.

Even if Israel took a military cargo plane and tried to Jerry right a MOAB to it, it would be suicide mission to send a cargo plane into heart of Iran. It would light up on every radar even Iran’s F-4’s could shoot it down. Hell even an S-200 could shoot it down.

Israel needs US to destroy Fordow. And it’s not even the biggest strongest enrichment hall, title belongs to the newly christened Natanz Tunnel Complex which is rumored to be a much larger version of Fordow complex and buried 75-150 meters underground.

Israel has zero chance hurting this if it can’t even dent Fordow.

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actually, the new rumoured site in Qazvin is even deeper than the new Natanz facility, with an average depth of 200-250m! that is one of the factors that forced Israel to act now

 

[Persian Gulf]

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what are you talking about? that tweet is 3 hours old. since then nothing has happened (strangely).

 

[RescueRanger]

That strategy doesn’t work on mountain bedrock. It might work on Natanz that is artificial bunker, not on natural formation.



This is incorrect. Israel doesn’t even have a plane that can carry that. Do you realize that?

A MOAB needs either a B-2 or a B-52. Neither of which are in Israeli inventory.

Even if Israel took a military cargo plane and tried to Jerry right a MOAB to it, it would be suicide mission to send a cargo plane into heart of Iran. It would light up on every radar even Iran’s F-4’s could shoot it down. Hell even an S-200 could shoot it down.

Israel needs US to destroy Fordow. And it’s not even the biggest strongest enrichment hall, title belongs to the newly christened Natanz Tunnel Complex which is rumored to be a much larger version of Fordow complex and buried 75-150 meters underground.

Israel has zero chance hurting this if it can’t even dent Fordow.

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I really appreciate the detailed reply but again I am only telling you what someone who is a Professor at a think tank said during a discussion. Perhaps that is why the Israelis want the US to get involved so they can fly a B2 or whatever and do the needful.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Multiple drones penetrate Israeli airspace in Eilat and near the occupied Golan