Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds



unconfirmed propaganda for now

seems unlikely considering they haven't made any serious efforts to penetrate the concrete above the facility

but even if it true, the Fordow site is the most important site for now (plus the undeclared site at Qazvin provided Iran managed to install centrifuges and move some material there)
 
Had a really excellent guy from Far East South Asia Strategic Studies (mouth full) think tank - he was an excellent guy, explained that the 5,000lbs bombs Isreal have are just not able to penetrate the reinforced concrete - so what they do is hit the same site several times with the aim of causing a breach - that is what you are seeing those mounts being covered again.

That strategy doesn’t work on mountain bedrock. It might work on Natanz that is artificial bunker, not on natural formation.

He went on to say what Israel wants from the US is the 30,000lbs MOP - but the US have so far not been keen to provide this to Israel (Crazy I know, US saying NO to Israel) - perhaps even they know Bibi is mentally unhinged and would end up irradiating half of the middle east, gulf and South Asia for his own "personal glory" and blood lust.

This is incorrect. Israel doesn’t even have a plane that can carry that. Do you realize that?

A MOAB needs either a B-2 or a B-52. Neither of which are in Israeli inventory.

Even if Israel took a military cargo plane and tried to Jerry right a MOAB to it, it would be suicide mission to send a cargo plane into heart of Iran. It would light up on every radar even Iran’s F-4’s could shoot it down. Hell even an S-200 could shoot it down.

Israel needs US to destroy Fordow. And it’s not even the biggest strongest enrichment hall, title belongs to the newly christened Natanz Tunnel Complex which is rumored to be a much larger version of Fordow complex and buried 75-150 meters underground.

Israel has zero chance hurting this if it can’t even dent Fordow.



 
Rezaee married in 1974. He has five children, two sons and three daughters. His eldest son, Ahmad, migrated to the United States in 1998 and sought political asylum
Not going to lie I’m thinking this guy looks shady as hell I’m going to look him up of course his son is in America just saying weird right not actually trying to be funny you never know
if he looks shady then it’s not him. It’s always those you expect the least
 
That strategy doesn’t work on mountain bedrock. It might work on Natanz that is artificial bunker, not on natural formation.



This is incorrect. Israel doesn’t even have a plane that can carry that. Do you realize that?

A MOAB needs either a B-2 or a B-52. Neither of which are in Israeli inventory.

Even if Israel took a military cargo plane and tried to Jerry right a MOAB to it, it would be suicide mission to send a cargo plane into heart of Iran. It would light up on every radar even Iran’s F-4’s could shoot it down. Hell even an S-200 could shoot it down.

Israel needs US to destroy Fordow. And it’s not even the biggest strongest enrichment hall, title belongs to the newly christened Natanz Tunnel Complex which is rumored to be a much larger version of Fordow complex and buried 75-150 meters underground.

Israel has zero chance hurting this if it can’t even dent Fordow.




actually, the new rumoured site in Qazvin is even deeper than the new Natanz facility, with an average depth of 200-250m! that is one of the factors that forced Israel to act now
 
That strategy doesn’t work on mountain bedrock. It might work on Natanz that is artificial bunker, not on natural formation.



This is incorrect. Israel doesn’t even have a plane that can carry that. Do you realize that?

A MOAB needs either a B-2 or a B-52. Neither of which are in Israeli inventory.

Even if Israel took a military cargo plane and tried to Jerry right a MOAB to it, it would be suicide mission to send a cargo plane into heart of Iran. It would light up on every radar even Iran’s F-4’s could shoot it down. Hell even an S-200 could shoot it down.

Israel needs US to destroy Fordow. And it’s not even the biggest strongest enrichment hall, title belongs to the newly christened Natanz Tunnel Complex which is rumored to be a much larger version of Fordow complex and buried 75-150 meters underground.

Israel has zero chance hurting this if it can’t even dent Fordow.




I really appreciate the detailed reply but again I am only telling you what someone who is a Professor at a think tank said during a discussion. Perhaps that is why the Israelis want the US to get involved so they can fly a B2 or whatever and do the needful.
 
With what we are seeing in Iran, Pakistan needs to take notice and go all out on any anti state elements, let evreyone shout about democracy and rights BS as much as they want.

With countries like India & Afg just next to us, we cannot afford to be sabotaged from within at a crucial moment, if it comes to us. I mean, Iran was a pretty controlled country even before Israel attacked. However, in Pakistan we have One province with open insurgency since 2 decades, another Province runs over Islamabad with weapons and attackers every now and then. And then we have Afghans openly roaming back and forth around the borders.

Here we are all sitting complaining about infiltrations in Iran and calling it incompetence, etc, however I am worried for the first time about how insanely fast these things can fk it all up.
If any military officer is reading this, please don't read this guy's idiotic advice.
 

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