Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Watandar]

It was a Russian general, I think. Maybe even a Russian politician.
Maybe even a famous Russian politician of Georgian origin.

Its commonly attributed to Stalin : "Quantity has a quality of its own".

 

[hyperman]

Israel’s true strategic surface, the 1,200 square miles that matter, is terminally small. Strip away the uninhabited Negev and unstrikeable agricultural belts, and what remains is a hyper-dense, fragile lattice of power, industry, and C4I nodes stacked atop civilian density. No strategic depth, no room to maneuver, and no capacity to absorb. Every hit is a system hit.

Meanwhile, Iran operates from a defense-in-depth paradigm, 636,000 square miles of sovereign volume, dozens of hardened redundancies, and decades of war-conditioned infrastructure. But more importantly, Iran manufactures its missile inventory domestically at industrial scale. Israel does not. The Israeli war machine is a proxy scaffold: F-35s from Lockheed Martin, interceptors from Raytheon, C4I firmware with NSA backdoors, and kill-chain logistics that begin and end in the Pentagon.

This is why Tel Aviv’s confidence is not self-derived. CENTCOM is the real command spine, and the entire Israeli escalation posture is designed with one core assumption: the Americans will step in before the ammo runs out. But the calculus flips if the U.S. blinks, delays, or decides, under resource pressure from the Pacific or domestic unrest, that a second-hand war with a nuclear-threshold state isn’t worth it.

I thought they built their own interceptors for Iron Done, David's Sling and Arrow?

 

[arjunk]

I don't understand what's stopping us from parking J-35 on the ground

Its radar will not see past the mountains of Balochistan.

Might as well feed intel from existing ground radars

and using its radar to guide Iranian SAMs.

LOL, this is an OPSEC Nightmare, Iran is infested with Mossad and RAW spies. Just use some of our navy and older ground based OTH radars to give Iranians early warning and battlespace picture is sufficient. Maybe sell them some weapons. The same level of support the Israelis gave the Indians

Nothing more, otherwise while you're busy with a random war 4000km away, the Indians are breathing down your neck in the east.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Your guess is as good as mine.

I guess no one has considered Israel?

Guys, seriously; this is the 21st Century. Not everyone lives in Jerkwater where shoes sizes are often larger than IQs.

If, and that is a BIG if, any other country was hosting Israeli aircraft, someone is going to post it on line.

 

[Hayabusa]

I know everyone is celebrating the Israelis getting a taste of their own medicine but let's assess the damage on each side:

Israel:
No IDF soldiers killed
1-2 AD sites damaged
Haifa Oil Refinery Damanged
Some impacts at Nevatim Airbase (?)
approx 10 civilians killed
Psychological impact of capital being hit

Iran:
Top Leadership wiped out
Nuclear and missile sites attacked and damaged multiple times
AD/S-300s almost entirely wiped out
Remaining AAA/SHORAD only managing to shoot down a few drones here and there
Many airbases and airports damaged
Multiple Oil Depots destroyed
Oil refinery damaged/destroyed
Gas field damaged/destroyed
Missile
Approx 100+ civilians martyred
Psychological impact of capital being hit

In isolation Iran might be able to sustain this rate of attrition against Israel, but the Americans are flying a massive tanker fleet over and their euro doggies are wagging their tails

In my view, Iran doesn't need to match Israel blow for blow. What it needs is to launch just enough strikes to throw the Israeli population into panic and force their government to rethink continuing the war. Iran understands it can't win outright given the overwhelming backing Israel receives, but it's clearly not backing down - and that makes it even more dangerous. Israel has overplayed its hand and seems unprepared for the consequences that are now unfolding. This conflict could drag on for months.

 

[Shazam256]

If America gets involved will other big nations, China and Russia get involved as well? Pakistan maybe?

 

[RescueRanger]

I guess no one has considered Israel?

Guys, seriously; this is the 21st Century. Not everyone lives in Jerkwater where shoes sizes are often larger than IQs.

If, and that is a BIG if, any other country was hosting Israeli aircraft, someone is going to post it on line.

I was thinking the mothership from Independence Day...

 

[Khanivore]

Things to ponder

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Disasterous policies have led them to a position where now their very survival is at stake.

It's criminal negligence IMO.

 

[RescueRanger]

I guess no one has considered Israel?

Guys, seriously; this is the 21st Century. Not everyone lives in Jerkwater where shoes sizes are often larger than IQs.

If, and that is a BIG if, any other country was hosting Israeli aircraft, someone is going to post it on line.

I was thinking the mothership from Independence Day...

If America gets involved will other big nations, China and Russia get involved as well? Pakistan maybe?

China will never get involved get real...

 

[SolarWarden]

Yes, I think US is likely to defend Israel at all cost, they don't want to see it destroyed.

Nope. False flag or straight up attack from Iran is the only way Orange man gets involved. Orange man made it clear these two are gonna have to fight it out.

 

[Watandar]

which country airbase are servicing the Zion air force ... this is the main question

Jordan and Syria.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

I was thinking the mothership from Independence Day...

That would be the ONLY option.

 

[Persian Gulf]

"We will have more information to report hopefully later in the day about the significance of this area. I don't want to get into it now, but people will talk about it later today, certainly."

- Trey Yingst from Tel Aviv...

he also shows severe damage to 7 buildings just from the shockwave!

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[AZ_HighCountry]

Jordan and Syria.

Color me skeptical at best.

 

[Yommie]

If America gets involved will other big nations, China and Russia get involved as well? Pakistan maybe?

I believe so yes. Pakistan borders Iran and that makes supply from China easy by the land route.