Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[lightning f57]

Why is there absence of proof? What happened to Chinese satellites.
Mizar is a Chinese company and was the first one to publish images of damage to Nur Khan.
Suddenly, ISPR couldn’t have become so benevolent to refrain from getting hold of these images of Indian bases and present them as a proof.
We know why no such proof has been presented by anyone, even private and independent agencies.

Why do they have to publish this to meet fanboy desires online?

You could make an argument why then the other side didn't show before and after satellite photos of the targeted bases if they say nothing was struck. Indian military has not even admitted to which aircraft have gone down why would they publish damage assessment to bases especially if they had been hit. Makes more sense to show if all is good.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Why do they have to publish this to meet fanboy desires online?

You could make an argument why then the other side didn't show before and after satellite photos of the targeted bases if they say nothing was struck. Indian military has not even admitted to which aircraft have gone down why would they publish damage assessment to bases especially if they had been hit. Makes more sense to show if all is good.

Hey have they ever found fatah wreckage which they claim to have intercepted

 

[lightning f57]

satellite images clearly show that Indian airbases suffered zero damage,

Where are these images. If you cant post here create a post battle thread for India lets see this zero damage.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Where are these images. If you cant post here create a post battle thread for India lets see this zero damage.

Jeets hide their losses like Israelis do.

Pakistan should have hit Dehli in the day.

 

[Vishnu Hypersonic Cruise]

Own realities are delusions but other’s delusions are also facts. That is the gist of your post.
I presented an argument devoid of any emotions or lofty fantasies. While your post has focussed only on these two.
You are mixing facts and emotions and creating an argument devoid of brevity and objective thinking.

I never claimed that Pakistan is not capable of this or that. I never said Chini maal, or raptor of the east etc etc. But you have chosen to quote them as there is nothing you can say to place your case here.

I just stated the facts based on the events in the aftermath of Op Sindhoor. And you have tried to create poetry.

If you have no argument or proof of your success of ground attacks then there is nothing wrong in accepting it. But, accepting one’s faults or mistakes takes a little more than what many people posses.

You have chosen to believe that things will unfold only in your favour? And I am the one who is delusional?

Please carry on with your belief that all advantages lie with you and all is well on your side and bad on Indian side.

This isn’t new — Pakistan has been making exaggerated claims since the 1965 and 1971 wars, and even during the Kargil conflict. Time and again, they fall for their own propaganda and end up making costly mistakes.

 

[Vishnu Hypersonic Cruise]

Where are these images. If you cant post here create a post battle thread for India lets see this zero damage.

Tell me which Indian airbase you want to see — I’ll post it here. You can check it yourself for any date and time you like.

 

[Vkdindian1]

Why do they have to publish this to meet fanboy desires online?

You could make an argument why then the other side didn't show before and after satellite photos of the targeted bases if they say nothing was struck. Indian military has not even admitted to which aircraft have gone down why would they publish damage assessment to bases especially if they had been hit. Makes more sense to show if all is good.

You have not understood even a basic tenet of warfare. And you are not the only one. There are scores like you who keep making similar argument.

It is always the aggressor or the attacker who has to substantiate their claims on the enemy. The other side will always downplay their own losses. Just like ISPR said minor damage due to Indian attacks.

You ISPR made very nice presentations to prove shooting down of IAF aircraft. Very nice display of skills to convince the world about own success.

What happened to those skills while proving their case for ground attacks? Were those skills lost suddenly?

Please don’t give juvenile arguments. Come up with grown up like reasons.

 

[Vkdindian1]

Tell me which Indian airbase you want to see — I’ll post it here. You can check it yourse for any date and time you like.

This argument will never be accepted by anyone for obvious reasons. You can expect childish reasons to deny the requirement of satellite pictures. ISPR’s word of attack on 26 bases is enough for most as a proof of damage too.

I fail to understand, how so many people can’t differentiate between, attempting to attack and success of an attack.
And they claim that delusion resides only across the border.

 

[Vishnu Hypersonic Cruise]

This argument will never be accepted by anyone for obvious reasons. You can expect childish reasons to deny the requirement of satellite pictures. ISPR’s word of attack on 26 bases is enough for most as a proof of damage to.

I fail to understand, how so many people can’t differentiate between, attempting to attack and success of an attack.

the same DG ISPR who presented edited video clips from Aaj Tak and India TV as proof, and even claimed that India fired ballistic missiles on its own people in Punjab. I honestly don’t understand how anyone can take these jokers seriously.

 

[jburke]

'Simply not true': Dassault CEO rubbishes Pakistan's claim of downing Rafales'
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Eric Trappier, Chairman and CEO of Dassault Aviation, has categorically dismissed Pakistan’s claims of shooting down three Indian Rafale jets during Operation Sindoor. In an interview with Challenges, a French magazine, Trappier affirmed that Dassault has received no official communication from the Indian Air Force (IAF) indicating any Rafale losses, firmly branding the Pakistani narrative as false.

“The reports of Indian Rafales being lost are not accurate,” Trappier stated.

“The Indians haven't communicated, so we don't know exactly what happened. What we already know is that what the Pakistanis are saying is inaccurate,” Trappier told the magazine.

Is he giving another spin??

Original French version here:

https://www.challenges.fr/entrepris...nois-les-verites-du-patron-de-dassault_605879

 

[Vkdindian1]

the same DG ISPR who presented edited video clips from Aaj Tak and India TV as proof, and even claimed that India fired ballistic missiles on its own people in Punjab. I honestly don’t understand how anyone can take these jokers seriously.

I wouldn’t use the word “joker”, because warfare is also about mixing information with dis-information. ISPR was just doing that.

Inafct, I admire such efforts of using information during a war.
The other side would never like it though.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

'Simply not true': Dassault CEO rubbishes Pakistan's claim of downing Rafales'​

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Eric Trappier, Chairman and CEO of Dassault Aviation, has categorically dismissed Pakistan’s claims of shooting down three Indian Rafale jets during Operation Sindoor. In an interview with Challenges, a French magazine, Trappier affirmed that Dassault has received no official communication from the Indian Air Force (IAF) indicating any Rafale losses, firmly branding the Pakistani narrative as false.

“The reports of Indian Rafales being lost are not accurate,” Trappier stated.

“The Indians haven't communicated, so we don't know exactly what happened. What we already know is that what the Pakistanis are saying is inaccurate,” Trappier told the magazine.

Is he giving another spin??

Original French version here:

https://www.challenges.fr/entrepris...nois-les-verites-du-patron-de-dassault_605879

Lol that engine mustve been 3d printed by a ISI recruited villager

Dude is trying to damage control so hard LOL

 

[Vishnu Hypersonic Cruise]

I wouldn’t use the word “joker”, because warfare is also about mixing information with dis-information. ISPR was just doing that.

Inafct, I admire such efforts of using information during a war.
The other side would never like it though.

I agree that disinformation is a part of warfare, especially for a weaker country fighting against a stronger one. But claiming that India is firing ballistic missiles on its own people just to make Pakistan look bad, and editing video clips from Indian media as ‘proof,’ is absolutely hilarious.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

I agree that disinformation is a part of warfare, especially for a weaker country fighting against a stronger one. But claiming that India is firing ballistic missiles on its own people just to make Pakistan look bad, and editing video clips from Indian media as ‘proof,’ is absolutely hilarious.

Okay but the Indian media claiming Hafiz Rauf is Rauf Azhar is hilarious

On top of that something did happen over amritsar Pakistan already showed radar evidence, whether it was interception of their own missile or not i dont know

 

[Vkdindian1]

I agree that disinformation is a part of warfare, especially for a weaker country fighting against a stronger one. But claiming that India is firing ballistic missiles on its own people just to make Pakistan look bad, and editing video clips from Indian media as ‘proof,’ is absolutely hilarious.

He did a good job at it. Since there are scores who believe in that outlandish claim.
Afghan official made a formal statement that there was no instance of any Indian projectile falling in their territory.

But, still, all these were attempts to create confusion and add to the fog of war. How so ever, small it may be.