Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[PakFactor]

shahadat is an integral part of Islam.

winning wars with tactics is the job of generals not preachers.

You are right. It's an integral part of Islam, but what we have is people mindlessly rushing to attain a status with no work and planning.

The generals rely on martyrdom with a twist, but have no strategy or tactics, relying on pump and dumb jazba.

I'm sorry, but it's a fact that this will be a bitter pill to swallow for many. As Gen. Patton said, "The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his."

A little story: During one of the battles in Islam's early history between Medina and Badr, one of the Prophet's companions wanted to show bravery while fighting and attain his status; his jazba was high, and he was willing to jump on the enemy's sword and attain his status. The prophet was aware of this and stopped him, saying this is akin to suicide and not permissible.

What @MastanKhan is saying is that preachers sold the people a false vision, a reality that was not real. While I have my disagreements with him on many issues, Chacha is on the mark with his post.

 

[Shazam256]

If Iran suddenly declared it has a nuke, will this all be over?

 

[brazensword]

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this is our last hope

I hope you guys test it on Diego Garcia.

 

[tower9]

Iran should tear up all the deals and treaty done with Russia and immediately switch to Pakistan and China, and cancel any deals for Su-35

These guys will do nothing as expected, not even sending one ammunition, even if Iran is nuked they would keep being passive and warm wording

It's too late. It takes 1-2 years to even get trained and integrated into a weapons system. If Iran had received J10s maybe back in 2023 at the latest, they would be ready now. It's too late now.

 

[Bharatah]

With Iran's skies opened.. do you think the US/Israel will allow Iran to rebuild?

There is no skies opened, it's fake news, they said skies opened in iran (2024) and yemen(2025) , USA was expelled from Yemen.

 

[brazensword]

If Iran suddenly declared it has a nuke, will this all be over?

Not unless they detonate it.

 

[Bilal]

There's no rebuilding. Iran gets remade as a vassal state, Pakistan next on the dinner plate.

That seems to be what they are going to do if the queens gambit is not played.

Preserve the state.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

There is no skies opened, it's fake news, they said skies opened in iran (2024) and yemen(2025) , USA was expelled from Yemen.

USA and Israel will fail.

 

[Sipahsalar]

They had no intention of delivering the SU-35's after Israel became upset. That should have sent alarm bells ringing.
Russia always has been the secret ally of Israel post Soviet Union.

All of Russian oligarchs are Jewish zionists and their support is vital for Putin to stay in power.

 

[kastor ville]

With Iran's skies opened.. do you think the US/Israel will allow Iran to rebuild?

They will turn Iran into failed state if they win.....don't believe me, look at Iraq, Syria, Libya.
If the nuclear facilities get wiped out, they will come after the missiles and arms industry next....and then the refineries and gas terminals. they won't stop till we are defenseless and poor.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Yep. Hope Pakistanis stop looking up to this stupid, ungrateful lot.

Welcome their investments of course, but do not trust Russia for your security ( well you cant trust anyone, but there is something about Russia that is not right for Iran ).

 

[Waz]

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Israeli jets enter Turkish airspace

The Israelis probably pi$$ed themselves as they will be up against a proper air force.

 

[clutch]

For this Iran needs to first make peace with Usa, Israel and GCC, Iran cannot afford to be anti this world ruling alliance and then move towards China and Pakistan. If Iran cannot defend itself they just sign the deal with Trump, get rid of nuke technology and ballistic technology, work towards peace for a few years and then switch over. But I think the zionist are too cunning, they want to change regime or else will turn Iran in to Syria until someone from within does it. We all knew for decades this is what they want and now they have the perfect chance, why should they show mercy?

Israel? Why would Iran make peace with a genocidal regime worse than ISIS? In fact, probably the head of ISIS? Where is your honor?

 

[arjunk]

There's no rebuilding. Iran gets remade as a vassal state, Pakistan next on the dinner plate.

chill out, if we survived Afghanistan WOT we will survive this.

 

[kastor ville]

If Iran suddenly declared it has a nuke, will this all be over?

This....this......this
This is the only card we have left to play
Iran needs to test a nuke, if they can.....immediately