Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[OldTwilight]

The wreckeage of Hermes:

https://www.aparat.com/v/nrlxy01

 

[Aggregate]

Trumps warning about evacuating Tehran and something big happening is concerning. I wonder what that might be. If they get in with B-2 and bomb the underground facilities, it technically isn't a big news because everybody knows they have the capability to do so.

Regarding Trump's call, everyone including US media said that Iran was about to lunch their 'biggest' attack that night and Trump's threat was to stop that attack and force Iran to tone it down. Which worked. That attack never happened and since then we have not seen any large attacks. Next day he returned back to calling for negotiations.

Trump lives in the moment. He would commit to one thing and then roll around towards another as soon as things change. There is an article on CNN saying how Trump woke up and saw Israel's sabotage and immediately went online to take credit of it, without asking anyone. Then as soon as Iran started attacking he went online and took credit for speaking with Middle East allies to stop bigger attacks. Nobody in US takes his tweets seriously. If he DOES see Iran is weakening, then he might as well drop a bomb and take credit. If he sees Israel is weakening then he might push Iran for ceasefire and take credit.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Because they know Pakistan has the capacity to respond if Israel uses nukes on Iran or nuclear fall out reaches Pakistan from destroyed Iranian nuclear sites. Asim Munir should not have gone to the US siting security situation in Pakistan.

There is a chance for Munir to tell trump what kind of people the Iranians are and how they will not back down as resistance to oppression is part of their culture. He can tell them how the USA is going to get caught up in something they can’t walk away from. A chance at diplomacy direct to trump. Might not work but work a try.

 

[Fatman17]

regarding the oil price hike being bad for OPEC Is BS and to the contrary they will benefit hugely in monetary surge

The US Col gas got Balle s

 

[Assyrian209]

Dude KSA literally send forces in Jordan.

They were not party to that war whatsoever.. Sending some volunteers means shxt.

Besides that dude completely failed to read my message or understand it. Multiple countries will back an incursion during the first minute with haste not because they love the monarchies but because the holy land will be under serious threat under such chaos which will automatically trigger their redlines

 

[Fatman17]

is asim elected representative of the people to gift Pakistan mines to Mr trump?

He formed the present government

 

[Aggregate]

No, it's probably fake news. If even one F-35 was shot down, Iran would be parading it's wreckage in front of the whole world.

Yep, they wasted no time in showing the wreckage of this UAV today. Should have similarly shown the F35s immediately.

 

[Anatolian]

Iran's performance is dissappointing to see. I have been following their defence industry for close to 2 decades(as many of you probably did as well) and to see it all crumble within a matter of days is extremely concerning to see. Goes to show that if you focus on Assymetric/Proxy warfare, don't neglect your capacity for conventional warfare as its still the deciding factor in any given war.

Hindsight is 20-20 but I feel like most of us were always telling that their lack of proper air force would have come bite them back eventually, probably should have swallowed their pride and flatout purchased either Chinese, Pakistani or Russian jets. Iran probably is not going to collapse anytime soon but a diminished Iran would probably allow those Zionists to complete their genocide on Palestinians.

 

[Fatman17]

World needs peace but US war machine needs continuous war, can't progress without selling weapons to both sides of the conflict.

Good point. Mil-industrial complex needs to thrive

 

[brazensword]

There is a chance for Munir to tell trump what kind of people the Iranians are and how they will not back down as resistance to oppression is part of their culture. He can tell them how the USA is going to get caught up in something they can’t walk away from. A chance at diplomacy direct to trump. Might now work but work a try.

You think American MIC gives a rats ass about a nobody telling them this?

 

[Sipahsalar]

Yep, they wasted no time in showing the wreckage of this UAV today. Should have similarly shown the F35s immediately.

Kind of disappointing that Iran failed to shoot down even a single fighter. Not even F16 or F15. Didn’t realise Iran would fail to do this.

 

[Psyko70]

There is a chance for Munir to tell trump what kind of people the Iranians are and how they will not back down as resistance to oppression is part of their culture. He can tell them how the USA is going to get caught up in something they can’t walk away from. A chance at diplomacy direct to trump. Might now work but work a try.

High chances he will definitely say something like that.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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finally we at least shot down massive slow MALE drone over central Iran

if we can crack down on internal traitors/spies and consistently shoot down MALE drones then we make Israel's job much harder

 

[Fatman17]

Remember when Imran Khan was in Russia when they launched their invasion of Ukraine?

Coincidence

 

[Farhan23]

Iran's performance is dissappointing to see. I have been following their defence industry for close to 2 decades(as many of you probably did as well) and to see it all crumble within a matter of days is extremely concerning to see. Goes to show that if you focus on Assymetric/Proxy warfare, don't neglect your capacity for conventional warfare as its still the deciding factor in any given war.

Hindsight is 20-20 but I feel like most of us were always telling that their lack of proper air force would have come bite them back eventually, probably should have swallowed their pride and flatout purchased either Chinese, Pakistani or Russian jets. Iran probably is not going to collapse anytime soon but a diminished Iran would probably allow those Zionists to complete their genocide on Palestinians.

The Gazans or Palestinians aren´t going anywhere and will outlast Iran itself. Nothing can undo them period they have fought for 2 years and depleted IDF. They are underestimated alot but they are the strongest force against Israel.

A Israeli general said that the strongest element of the resistance axis is Hamas and smallest of our enemy and he said this 1 year after the war and said they have done the most damage to us like nobody else. Because they are patient, tolerant and can go on and on and on.

The reason for that is Israelis memories of war is flawed they assume wars are just air strikes and where everyone goes home after few weeks yada yada but Hamas is a fortess that can´t be uprooted. They got use to the meatgrinder and have adapted