Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[KingQamaR]

Right now in China, there are two different takes on Iran.

One side thinks we already tried building a closer relationship with them, but it didn’t really work out — so maybe it’s time to change how we approach Iran.

The other side says we still have strategic interests there, so we shouldn’t just walk away and still need to support them, at least to some extent.

But honestly, a lot of Chinese people are pretty shocked at how some Iranians have acted. Over the years, we’ve seen how pro-U.S. some of them are, but no one expected that kind of full-blown betrayal — like, selling out their own country-level stuff.

It reminds people here of what happened after we supported North Korea and Vietnam in those wars — and then both of them turned around and gave us the cold shoulder.

Some say China should send advanced weapons to Iran, but there are real concerns. What if that tech ends up in Western hands? Or worse, India’s?

Look at the Russia-Ukraine war — we didn’t even send weapons to Russia, and the West still goes after us every single day. If we send gear to Iran, the blowback would be huge.

And Iran isn’t even a real military ally. There's no guarantee they'll be on our side after all this.

Plus, let’s not forget — Iran hasn’t even officially asked China or Russia for help. So why should we rush in?

90% of Iranian oil is sold to China. Therefore this is really could be about China and not nukes and not Israel. It’s about money and fkn( petro-dollar) and hegemony. And to weaken Brics.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

The way iran is coming back, its looking good

However 1 more wave for good measure

Dead cat bounce.

Sorry and apologies. Just being a realist.

Time for both sides to stand down and come to the table.

 

[Khan090]

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They are actually shutdown for civilians but not for other matters.
And the border is being and will be opened for civilians also from time to time.

 

[FuturePAF]

How recent is this?

The attack plans were reported to be approved yesterday and was all over the media. Along with the President has not signed the "Go" order yet.

True, it references the approval on Tuesday, reported yesterday, but no “Go” order just yet.

 

[brazensword]

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Lets hope we can wake to this in Tell Aviv.

 

[Bharatah]

As i arealdy said before :

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[hussain0216]

Wrong thread...

To be fair, everything applies to the iranians too and they have even more to work out

If they wake up, they could get in better terms with China, Pakistan, Turkey to the point where in conflict they have support

 

[tsunset]

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[RescueRanger]

To be fair, everything applies to the iranians too and they have even more to work out

If they wake up, they could get in better terms with China, Pakistan, Turkey to the point where in conflict they have support

To be fair we have drawn a line here as mods. No pak discussions here. You have a specific thread for Pak security issues discuss there.

 

[FuturePAF]

True, it references the approval on Tuesday, reported yesterday, but no “Go” order just yet.

Trump Secretly Greenlit Iran War

Israel wants regime change; the U.S. is fine with that, sources say

www.kenklippenstein.com

 

[That_Guy]

Israeli citizens are better prepared for war and are well supported by their government and private agencies. I can't say the same about Iranian citizens.

If you are counting on demoralizing the average Israeli citizen through Iranian missile strikes then don't bet on it.

While it's true that wars tend to unify nations, and lionize populations, losing wars has the opposite affect and can have severe consequences.

Israelis may technically be better in the long run when it comes to rebuilding and support for citizenry, in the short term it's questionable.

Iran has shown in every single one of its wars that it is willing to suffer so long as it doesn't lose.

Israelis have had this same mentality in the past, but being rich and living in posh villas and rich communist-run Kibbutz has eroded that mentality. It's massive defenses has actually worked against preparing Israelis for a long war against actual near peer foes and not just against insurgents and militant groups, because it gave them a false sense of security.

Clearly Israel thought Iran would just be another Hamas/Hezbullah situation where they'd be able to bomb them into submission. They've just found out what happens when you start getting addicted to the smell of your own farts.

I think we'll see Israeli society crack sooner than Iranian society.

 

[fitpOsitive]

@Persian Gulf according to Pakistani media USA will launch attack on Iran within next two days. I will say, in these two days blast each and every airport, military airbases , sea ports of Israel as much as you can. I suppose B2s will be used to deliver bunker busters, so don't wait for too long to use whatever best is available with you. May Allah be with Iran.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

It does not work this way, there are only 2 version of internet protocol (TCP), IPv4 and IPv6, if you want use internet, external routing and so on, you are going to need to connect to either otherwise you aren't going to get communication. And both were controlled by the US (DAPRA controlled IPv4, IETF controlled IPv6)

There is a reason why usually it's the FBI that busted dark web (IP/Website that are not searchable) that's because US basically have exclusivity to all IP address. And you can't transmit anything outside your own network without a IP address.

So if they gone dark, that's it, they can't use it at all, it wouldn't matter if China supply Iran with router and everything. Becuase the TCP/IP is going to be the same.

No one owns internet. Its decentralized.
Never heard that DARPA controls IPv4. ICANN's subdivision oversee IPv4. It was fully transitioned into completely a global non-profit org.

I looked up IETF, its completely global group / open source kinda, any one can collaborate / contribute and work for it and get up to the ladder in the organisation.

No FBI or even full force of US govt can do anything about an average internet user in China. If they really were in control of the whole god damn thing, then there was no need for trade wars etc. would have just switched them off.

 

[Goenitz]

The way iran is coming back, its looking good

However 1 more wave for good measure

Iran has to show that it can fight, and the rest will follow. The world would come in to save the day.

 

[SaadH]

They spent two hours (double scheduled meeting time) discussing Iran and India -- and Hafiz sb invited Trump to visit Pakistan.

Trump got some fresh perspectives from Gen Munir. Very different from what Trump's war mongering AIPAC-funded yes-men have been telling him.

So the little napoleonic complex suffering jannu german who has had it in for Iran for sometime and was fired for it by IK has now seen the light and is challenging Trump on Iran. Sure...