Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Toxic said:
Wasn't Iran signing trade deals with India while we were in a active conflict? What kind of "brother" Does that, this language is just so pathetic.
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We want them to be independent and learn from their own mistakes. We help them whenever shit hit their ceiling as we share the same roof.

They have as much right for self determination as we do. If you are asking them to be dictated by Pakistani desires, they wouldn't be free then now would they.
 
Viet said:
for me from Vietnam it is difficult to apprehend. the entire muslim world and their armies seem totally helpless against Israel, a country of few people.
seriously if you want to crush the Israeli army, that´s not a problem at all. what you need is more than weapons, you need to be smarter than the Jews.
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You either naive or very dumb.. Israel is easiest country to take out but then one most fight NATO.. Seems like your brains was lost in the vietnamese jungle.

Once NATO is first defeated Israel vanishes into thin air
 
The SC said:
Beer Şeva after the Iran attack.

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The hit is near Microsoft in Beersheba

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In Kiryat Gat near Gaza, there a $ 25 billion project for Intel it might be bombed also..

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I am shocked that the intel facility has not been totally taken out. It will militarily hurt Israel, and also the USA as It could be actively supplying CPUs to the Israeli for their missiles and weapons with custom military designs.
 
Toxic said:
Exactly! They didn't help us so they shouldn't expect help from us.
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Whos helping? The government isn't. If you want people to show solidarity with Israel because of an inherent personal bias, sure go ahead.
 
Ali_Baba said:
I am shocked that the intel facility has not been totally taken out. It will hurt Israel, and also the USA. It could be actively supplying CPUs to the Israeli for their missiles.
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We can live with AMD!
 
El Sidd said:
Any news from Geneva?
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Discussions are still underway: (as suspected the Iranians have set their red lines very clearly)
Iran's Foreign Minister: We will not discuss our missile capabilities with anyone; they are purely defensive. We are open to Europeans seeking a diplomatic solution regarding Iran's nuclear program, and our current talks in Geneva are focused on the nuclear issue.

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It is theorised that Trump admin will likely use these redlines against the Iranians in any negotiation efforts:
 
Viet said:
I mean serious. once Iran is finished the Israeii will go after Pakistan and Turkey.
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What is going on between Israel and Iran is not even a fuking war just BM, CM and bombing exchanges.. It is like throwing stones at each other behind a wall..

Israel can´t even defeat Gaza and fighting them for straight 2 years and you talking about them going after others... LMAO
 
Viet said:
I am a neutral observer. as it is, Iran has no chance against Israel. Iran will face a total destruction.
war is a serious business, you can´t give the country to a mullah. Khamenei controls the army, the economy, the justice, the parlirment, the money, everything. he probably tells to himselves I am the overlord, I don´t need allies, I don´t need Russia, I don´t need China. that´s a receipt for disaster.
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Ye i can see how neutral you are.
Israel is the one that has attacked a sovereign nation and its attempting to defend itself - yet you blame them? Who goes around the middle east bullying all nations?
Do you expect Iran not to respond to hostility?
Iran is responding when being attacked - what should it do?
 
Aggregate said:
He just wants Iran to fk up Nethanyaoo a lot more in the next 2 weeks, then he will get them into a ceasefire. That Ba$tard Nethanyahoo is getting fkd up bad and the Us seems to letting it continue on purpose so that he finally goes to his corruption Trial.
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If trump wanted to do that, he would slow down the supply of interceptors and weapons to Israel. Trump has not done that, but the opposite with large scale weapons supplies now going on.
 
Tariq Habib Afridi said:
No it brings other limitations as well. payload is not an issue when all iran would need is to deny its air space. but the actual issue came in the radar and other sensors due to low thrust of engine power.
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It's a numbers game, enough JF17s with PL15s and AWAC and ground radar support are a sufficient deterrence defending your own state backed up by your own A.D

Especially if you safeguarding areas and specific sites and cities

The other advantage being that JF17s are open to incorporating any iranian missile they want
So in future if Iran wants to work on its own BVRs or munitions or glide bombs it can request work done to incorporate them
If it wants to work on its own air launched cruise missiles or anti ship missiles

Their is nothing that will be a NO

At a lower cost JF17s represent NUMBERS and a level of independence with your own weaponry



Iran if possible needs to get it's Su35s for long range bombing missions

Get the J10C for air superiority

And back that all up with multiple JF17s to do the day to day heavy lifting, quick response and utilization of iranian weapons as well as the PFX option in future


And in future work closer with allies be more open to obtain a 5th Gen option from China or maybe even Turkey if relations improve to that extent
 
RescueRanger said:
Discussions are still underway: (as suspected the Iranians have set their red lines very clearly)
Iran's Foreign Minister: We will not discuss our missile capabilities with anyone; they are purely defensive. We are open to Europeans seeking a diplomatic solution regarding Iran's nuclear program, and our current talks in Geneva are focused on the nuclear issue.

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It is theorised that Trump admin will likely use these redlines against the Iranians in any negotiation efforts:
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It would be funny if US demands shift from disarming nuclear program to disarming missile program.

What next, ban pistols for Iranians 😁
 
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