Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[vmro]

Don't worry dear. Any missile that travels beyond Mach 5 is hypersonic. So we are okay, our missile men know what they are doing.

Many ballistic missiles travel beyond 5 mach, but they are still ballistic if they have ballistic, predefined trajectory... cruise missiles are with guided trajectory, but much slower speed... so hypersonic may be simplified as hybrid of both of them....

 

[Bengal71]

GCC is providing logistical support for the operations.

Yes, I think the same. Otherwise the sortie rate simply doesn't make sense.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Truth! Never underestimate the stupidity and suicidal tendencies of the zionist West! I made this mistake. Wallahi I NEVER thought that their elites would be so retarded to imitate conflict with Iran knowing relatively well of Iran's capabilities. Unlike most here they have sound intelligence, people who's business it is to know certain known things. Obviously it seems to me that it was a calculated gamble hoping that Iran would buckle from the inside, but I'm also surprised by that conclusion. Historically they know that such a thing has never happened. I'm still scratching my head on this. We'll know more in the coming weeks, months and years.

Did you hear miliekowsky talk, Libya Model?
They certainly wanted an internal collapse. The groups working inside alongside trained operatives and intelligence. Hindsight is 20/20 and I think they had it down... it couldn't have too much oversight or input at peril of foiling the whole operation. They greenlit it at the most opportune time... used the whole negotiations charade to gather intel and identify key personnel etc.

 

[Meengla]

If Russian had made good on its promise and delivered the Sukhois to Iran, Israel may not have actually went through with the strikes. If they did, Iran would have been able to challenge Israel's air dominance, slow down if not completely stop the strikes while delivering its own via missiles. It would have been completely one sided affair.

No, no, and no.
Modern airforce is not just about the jets. Way, way more than that. People might benefit from the India-Pakistan May 2025 conflict. First time in human history, so many advanced gadgets, jets, satellites, EW, strategies were utilized between two peer-powers with a lot of preparations, training on both sides. IF Iran had invested in similar setup decades ago, then, maybe it would have helped otherwise their jets would be destroyed on the ground!

I believe Iran made right approach: Ballistic missiles in large numbers AND in investing in the proxies right next to Israel. They need to find a replacement for the lost proxies. And fast.

 

[Protagoras]

Not possible Trump will not take this expensive chance it will sink Uncle Sam's ship more rapidly.....Simply USA can't afford another war of such scale especially Russia and China opposing it.

China already mentioned it will start helping Iran if USA got involved, China is really flexing its muscles.

What the Israelis are looking for is a regime collapse not necessarily a regime change.

Trump makes up his mind depending on the last person he talked to and there are plenty of hawks in his administration.

The American goal might just be take out Fordow for now, the Israelis would be hoping for a more broader collapse of the Iranian state.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Just throwing a theory out there.

Israel showing we have no air defense (AD) left we are under attack to the world, when infact they do but need the world to see how helpless they are.

Therefore western intervention on their behalf is required, sold via the media for their populous, ie Randi roona/fake tear's.

Every little help's.

would'nt have attacked Arak reactor, but, your angle is relevant too!

 

[Falcon29]

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[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Can't the launcher trucks be imported from China quickly, by plane?

can be home grown

 

[krash]

Indians, in desperation boasts about the 'civilizational ties' with Iran. WTH?! The ties exist because of the Muslims of the Indo Pak subcontinent and the Zoroastrian-Hindu ties were so old, much smaller in comparison.
Iranians, on the other hand, really misunderstood Pakistan. Yes, Pakistan was in the American camp, Yes, Pakistan was in the Arab camp. But only to some extent and never to the detriment of Iran itself. Pakistanis have been extracting whatever they can from the Americans and the Arabs to fortify Pakistan against India, which is the single most important concern for Pakistan for the last eight decades. We all saw what happened in May 2025: India can't be ignored by Pakistan.

The post revolution Iranian establishments have repeatedly miscalculated and botched their foreign policy, isolating themselves. Hopefully, they will now pivot and towards the Chinese. They need to remove the sectarian lenses, tone down their rhetoric, stop over-reaching into every country around them, and pursue a foreign policy solely focused on forming regional economic and military ties, instead of rivalries and losing horses. They can leave the Saudis and Emiratis as they are but the reasonless poking between them, Pakistan, and Turkey needs to end. All three countries have a fair bit to offer each other and no serious issues.

They also need to tone it down against the US. With a power disparity of this magnitude you need to be smart, work with/around it, and build yourself up. A quieter, less aggressive, but stronger and more engaged Iran will be better for Iranians, Muslims, the region, and the Palestinians.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Btw - the Iran/China Rail link is almost up and running(lets see if it survives the war.

New progress in the construction of railway corridors in five countries--Seetao

The construction of the five-country railway corridor will open up China's new sea channel

www.seetaoe.com

If it does, then Azerbaijan can use its railway to transport oil to China as well easily, thereby reducing its need to provide oil to Israel ...

Very important in the context of this war, and Israel's war economy.

 

[Sarhang]

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Lol so they care about a damaged mosque now ?

-.-

 

[Maarkhoor]

What the Israelis are looking for is a regime collapse not necessarily a regime change.

Trump makes up his mind depending on the last person he talked to and there are plenty of hawks in his administration.

The American goal might just be take out Fordow for now, the Israelis would be hoping for a more broader collapse of the Iranian state.

If Fardow only believe me it will help Iranian regime more but to change regime they need boots on ground which seems to be next to impossible for USA at this time due to very very high cost war in terms of economy and American lives.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

The USA should lease 4 or 5 B-52's to Israel, on a few year term, and sell Israel 5 or six GBU-57's. Let Israel decide what to do about Iranian nuclear facilities on its own. Sure B-52's are vulnerable but let Israel deal with the tactics problems of using them to deliver GBU-57's. If it takes 3 months for Israel to assimilate the B-52's into a tactical option, let the Iranians think about their choices for that long.

of course, any thing for cheap oil!

 

[vmro]

No, no, and no.
Modern airforce is not just about the jets. Way, way more than that. People might benefit from the India-Pakistan May 2025 conflict. First time in human history, so many advanced gadgets, jets, satellites, EW, strategies were utilized between two peer-powers with a lot of preparations, training on both sides. IF Iran had invested in similar setup decades ago, then, maybe it would have helped otherwise their jets would be destroyed on the ground!

I believe Iran made right approach: Ballistic missiles in large numbers AND in investing in the proxies right next to Israel. They need to find a replacement for the lost proxies. And fast.

I hope that Hezbollah is actively working on rebuilding and reestablish the power they had not so long time ago..

 

[SaadH]

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Time for iran to turn those missiles on starlink constellation I'm sure Chinese will have no problem consulting on the project.