Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

coffee_cup said:
Bro cant you just thread-ban this IDF apologist and propagandist? We really do not need it, if we want to see that propaganda there are places to go like BBC, CNN, FOX, SKY and what not. Let this thread be an IDF propaganda-free. This Vietnamese/Filipino dude can do that on some other threads if he wants to. Thanks!
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Let him be.
What's the harm?
 
Aggregate said:
Well if China does want to help Pakistan, then it needs to help NOW, by not letting Pakistan get surrounded on all sides. Once there is India on one side and a Pro-Zionist Iranian Govt on the other side, there is NO WAY Pakistan will be allowed to remain as an ally of China. Or, if China wants to be passive and continue "staying out of wars", then so be it. Until war comes to them like it ultimately came to Russia form all fronts.

One thing I do know, is that India is not gonna have a good time in the end, either. In case if China goes down, the West is gonna come so hard on India, these racists ultra-hate anyone that does not look like them. Its not like they are gonna make some alliance with India in the end. they will fk up all non-whites equally by the end of it all.
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What can China do?

They are not passive, but don't ever expect them to commit ground troops or overt presence


Regime change is arguably less of a concern, compared to regime collapse. And that's what they are saying they want, regime collapse

That would be a disaster, because then you are right next to a bigger version of Libya, lawless banditry with a constant supply of Taliban types and hostile operators

However, it's really very worrying, this is just straight up one tribe versus the other, right now I don't think it's more complicated than that, no talk of off-ramp, one side wins, one side does not
 
RescueRanger said:
Well been saying this for how long in this thread and I don't think people paid any attention to what I was posting.

You don't move that many assets into a region just for shits and giggles.
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Well, B2s are coming anyway, so 3 scenarios:

  1. The US is gonna throw the GBUs on Fordow and Tell Iran not to retaliate against the US, or else these planes assets are waiting for them (US will just use them as a threat against escalation)
  2. These planes are all a part of an inevitable attack no matter what Iran does (seems less likely, otherwise Iran would have some intel and they would have preemptively attacked anyway - unless they have lost the capability to do so)
  3. As a best case scenario, I hope China/Russia are able to deter the US somehow at the last minute and none of this is required. At least intervene to get Israel to stop its attacks. So Iran can get a win-win return to negotiation table and it all stops
 
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Aggregate said:
Well, B2s are coming anyway, so 3 scenarios:

  • The US is gonna throw the GBUs on Fordow and Tell Iran not to retaliate against the US, or else these planes assets are waiting for them (US will just use them as a threat against escalation)
  • These planes are all a part of an inevitable attack no matter what Iran does (unlikely otherwise Iran would have some intel and they would have preemptively attacked anyway)
  • As a best case scenario, I hope China/Russia are able to deter the US somehow at the last minute and none of this is required. At least intervene to get Israel to stop its attacks. So Iran can get a win-win return to negotiation table and it all stops
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4th scenario.

Just posturing.
Nothing gonna happen.
 
Aggregate said:
Well, B2s are coming anyway, so 3 scenarios:

  • The US is gonna throw the GBUs on Fordow and Tell Iran not to retaliate against the US, or else these planes assets are waiting for them (US will just use them as a threat against escalation)
  • These planes are all a part of an inevitable attack no matter what Iran does (unlikely otherwise Iran would have some intel and they would have preemptively attacked anyway)
  • As a best case scenario, I hope China/Russia are able to deter the US somehow at the last minute and none of this is required. At least intervene to get Israel to stop its attacks. So Iran can get a win-win return to negotiation table and it all stops
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B-2s were in Diego Garcia not too long ago as were B-1s and B-52s. I'm not divulging anything classified (as if I'd have access anyway). It's all in the public domain.

The B-52 is reportedly capable of carrying the GBU-57 as well.
 
Aggregate said:
Well, B2s are coming anyway, so 3 scenarios:

  • The US is gonna throw the GBUs on Fordow and Tell Iran not to retaliate against the US, or else these planes assets are waiting for them (US will just use them as a threat against escalation)
  • These planes are all a part of an inevitable attack no matter what Iran does (unlikely otherwise Iran would have some intel and they would have preemptively attacked anyway)
  • As a best case scenario, I hope China/Russia are able to deter the US somehow at the last minute and none of this is required. At least intervene to get Israel to stop its attacks. So Iran can get a win-win return to negotiation table and it all stops
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it could also mean,
only B2 would do the bombing of bunker busters...

it could only be bombing with heavy bunker busters... a race to precisely deliver heavy bombs!

China is quietly observing in the background!
 
Musings said:
All the reports coming out of israel about death destruction - people begging to leave are not true - you are the official
Voice of the west?
Continue on your way posting your tweets but dont cross the line by lying.
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Iran has inflicted almost no damage to Israeli military operations, and minimal effect on strategic targets.

Israeli interception rates are high. Iran hasn’t inflicted the damage they’ve sustained need to change Israel’s calculus.
 
Aggregate said:
Well, B2s are coming anyway, so 3 scenarios:

  • The US is gonna throw the GBUs on Fordow and Tell Iran not to retaliate against the US, or else these planes assets are waiting for them (US will just use them as a threat against escalation)
  • These planes are all a part of an inevitable attack no matter what Iran does (unlikely otherwise Iran would have some intel and they would have preemptively attacked anyway)
  • As a best case scenario, I hope China/Russia are able to deter the US somehow at the last minute and none of this is required. At least intervene to get Israel to stop its attacks. So Iran can get a win-win return to negotiation table and it all stops
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But too much is at risk. A ceasefire means that the entire ME status quo will change. Israels invincibility myth is shattered. They will have to accept eating missiles from us next time they try any funny business. And there will be no stopping our nuclear program. Even PG states need to distance themselves from Israel and seek closer ties with Iran. I don’t see how Netanyahu and the Zionist lobby in the US is going to allow this.

They will go for regime change or total destruction and balkanization
 
Developereo said:
The tweet is saying 'post take-off'.
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sorry just woke up I meant post take off. Plus, Guam is well stocked with ordnance it's silly to believe the B2's needs to make the journey to Guam fully armed or return to the US to rearm.
 
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