Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Could it have been Pak told trump, ok bomb furdow and call it a day…

Yes, it is exactly so. Santa Clause was also present in that meeting.

Iran has lost it now. No need to do facesaving now by hitting Israel now. A proper paper tiger!!! A big disappointed for me

I'm sure the Iranians will be devastated to learn of your disappointment.
 
Honestly - I'm quite disappointed in China.
The nomination for Noble Peace Prize will be recalled or what ?

He'll probably get it now. Remember who runs the world and which people have won that particular award more than any other.
 
IRI. You are going down regardless. At least give us the pleasure of taking down Israel with you and you will reach legend status. Go down as a legend or go down as a coward.
I think they've done a helluva job, so far. The US intervention is the self evident that Israel needed to be bailed out.....they Israelis got a taste of what they've been dishing out......now, Trump better buckle up, $6 dollar a gallon gas will put a big damper on the US economy, and a recession in the US will cost trillions....so Iran can make them bleed in other ways.
 
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I think more practical approach will be to hit Israel as hard as they can and leave Americans out for now. American attack is symbolic at most and two facilities were inoperable and hit before any ways....To me it seems Americans were after media news mare than strategic move....
 
Besides the theatrics of this attack I'm sure Iran has unknown facilities.
Everyone knows that, These things don't stay hidden to Intel agencies for too long especially in an age where satellites are used for surveillances, and also the fact that mossad has infiltrated Iran's military at high ranks.

Even Iran knows that. This attack was a signal by the USA that we mean business, our threats are no empty threats, comply or the real deal is to come.

It's a power projection. I don't know if the Iranian leadership betted on this attacks possibility or not but sh*t just got real for them and this will make them second guess their diplomacy going forward. America proved that

"Yes, I am a bully. I will bully you in front of the world and no one would come to stop us, SEE! Stop trying to be our equals and do as we say or perish"
 
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For are Indian friends. Their contribution saar

Fake news. This is a ISI run account, that posts only non-sense. Check it's post history.
 
Then US will do regime change in Pakistan.
Much easier job.
No, what they ARE doing currently is trying to erode Islam and turn the Pakistani youth to Pehlavi/PTM/BLA type far left secularism and 4th wave feminism.

Because they do not want an 'Islamic' state to have the Bomb. Us blowing up dirty brown idol worshippers was an exception the zionists/whites were willing to make. However recently the US openly declared otherwise.


And if they remove Islam from our youth, then Pakistan will, by the will of its own misguided useful idiot leftist academia and jaahil awaam, fall apart into small ethnostates, much like the USSR -- Balochistan annexed by Pehlavi Iran, KP annexed by Taliban, Kashmir, Punjab, Sindh annexed by India and turned into a kanjar khana for creepy indian tourists.

If you ever saw the state of Pakistani schools and unis, especially in Lahore, you would see this plan is already in action.

First they targeted and neutralized the shameless feudal elite, now they are moving to neutralize and de-islamize the general population itself.

PTM Islamabad already made a statemement in support of the Zionist sky news anchor!
 
I think they've done a helluva job, so far. The US intervention is the self evident that Israel needed to be bailed out.....they Israelis got a taste of what they've been dishing out......now, Trump better buckle up, $6 dollar a gallon gas will put a big damper on the US economy, and a recession in the US will cost trillions....so Iran can make them bleed in other ways.
I don’t want IRI to chicken out. Go all in and demolish Israel.
 
I think more practical approach will be to hit Israel as hard as they can and leave Americans out for now. American attack is symbolic at most and two facilities were inoperable and hit before any ways....To me it seems Americans were after media news mare than strategic move....
I'm okay if Dimona is hit hard and obliterated.
 
I think khamenei is an agent or was blackmailed. His fatwa was pointless. He could have said it’s haram to use the bomb, instead of making it haram to have it as a deterrent

It's not a well researched fatwa. If nuclear weapons are haram due to the destruction they cause then should be ballistic missiles which can kill innocents. In Islam killing one person is evil, same as killing 1000s. Muslim nations must build nukes for DEFENSIVE purposes, so that noone can bomb them, kill the innocents, bomb nuclear facilities, weapons shouldn't be built to kill innocents, that is when it is haram. Can you forward this to Ayatollah sahib.
 
Do you guys think future plan is to steal Iran's vast oil/gas resources just like done to other ME states? And is that even possible?
Their plan will be to curtail Iranian influence in the region in the Shia crescent as they call it - curb Chinese influence in the ME (keep in mind Iran was an integral part of the Chinese B&R project), deny China access to cheap oil - they had already sanctioned a Chinese Cargo ship for transporting Iranian oil on the 20th of June 2025.

It will be interesting to see what US will want in exchange of "PEACE"?

- Will they want Iran to surrender or limit their BM program (range, numbers etc)
- Will they want Iran to roll back their (Iranian) enrichment capabilities back to 3.5% (who will monitor this? IAEA?)
- What about the 60% enriched fuel? Will they ask Iran to surrender it? Will Iran Surrender it? Who will be the custodian? IAEA(logical choice), perhaps a nation friendly to the Americans and ME and Iranians (India?)

So many questions.
 
Let us put it in Perspective

With an area of 1,648,195 square kilometres (636,372 sq mi), Iran ranks seventeenth in size among the countries of the world

1273km x 1273km

The USA's mission impacted tiny tiny bit of land 0.1%
 
  • Pakistan will be deceived in the coming months.
    • These trade deals, crypto, mining investments, and now Trump Tower are all deceptive schemes aimed at misleading the Hafiz & Co and the Showbaz.
Current US management is all lies. They are using deception to achieve their military/political goals. They talked of peace deals/ceasefire but behind the curtain they were making plans to murder the peace deal delegation.
US has lost much respect and trust after this episode. Now, it would be so foolish of anyone to believe anything which is coming out of US's mouth, really need to up our game, and make sure with 100% certainty we are able to deliver nuclear response just in case Israel tries any misadventure.
 

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