Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

People dont really understand U.S.A has whole western world behind them they arent divided like asia. what would china alone do,They are surrounded by usa Allies in Asia by japan,philipino , Australia etc,Even Pak will think twice to ally with china against west.China cant fight whole western world in any sphere.China is doing whats best for its people.
 
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Liquidator said:
The Iranians wait to get attacked and then respond. Usually takes them 1-2 days to respond, as though they didn't bother with planning and contingency beforehand.

A bizarre people indeed.
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Same with how Pakistan responded with Indian attacks.

I hope Pakistan learns from this whole thing because we are next on the chopping block!
 
If Iran accept peace it will basically just be a "re-arming" period for Israel
may be 1 month 0r 2-3 month and once they are re-armed to teeth by western nations they will come back and drop more bombs as they did in Syria

For me reviewing the scenario it makes more sense to just clean out Israel 100%
  • Don't leave anything
  • Everything must go

Take out all the airbases 100% spread all over middle east
  • Near all the way to Cyprus

**** up the aircraft carriers 100%

Reprecutions
  • This would make sense but of course that means , accepting Direct War

So from Iran's perspective , they will have to decide
a) Are they willing to go all out 100% Now!!!
b) Or they ok to wait 2-3 month when Israel is re-armed and they bomb you again

There will be no peace that is 100% what ever Trump will offer will not be peace

As for the Other countries
What is happening in Iran , will happen in Turkey
Will happen in Egypt
Will happen in Pakistan
 
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PakAl said:
Their was, look at Syria, Russia at the request of Bashar Al Assad sent their airforce and strong troops to fight the rebels. Iran was 10x bigger ally than Syria.
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Well Russia DID try to help. As you said, they had bases
RescueRanger said:
Well Iran is in a bind, they will have to play what cards they have left.


Like I said - the cards are
A) Peace
B) War

What does Peace look like ? what are the concessions?

War - well we know that is going to be a protracted mess.
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Iran can only go for Peace if the US also directs Israel to stop its actions in Gaza and elsewhere. Otherwise, even if Peace is achieved by Iran, it will not last at all. As soon as the next attack is done by Israel on Iran, everything will go to hell. Also, if Israel backs off from Iran but keeps attacking Gaza, then everyone's patience will run out again, in a few weeks.

the War part is Iran's choice, but giving Iran the option of "Peace" is more dependent on the US actions from here on, in controlling Israel's actions.
 
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Xerxes22 said:
Before I go to bed I just want to say
this..... KHAMENEI YOU WEAK ASS BITCH. YOU ARE A BITCH, AN OLD ASS DUMBFUCK, YOU GODDAMN IDIOT.
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Can you just calm down ...its not like you were guarding these facilities yourself....Also somehow you reek of being an Indian...Just saying.... Take shower and may be you will blend in much better
 
Hayabusa said:
Same with how Pakistan responded with Indian attacks.

I hope Pakistan learns from this whole thing because we are next on the chopping block!
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Erm not really.

PAF took out their jets on day 1 & had a clear military strategy. In addition, Pakistan was WILLING to go all the way and escalated over and beyond Indian expectations.
 
This was yet another media war action, as I have said SEVERAL TIMES in the last few months: military attacks are AIMING at MEDIA REPERCUSION and not exactly military conquests. In this case it is the same thing, "Israel" was losing(for Iran) so the Jewish Zionist elite called Trump who made a media move: in the Western Zionist media they set up material as if Iran had "surrendered", Ayatollah had fled, etc., they are trying to simulate a non-existent victory... which proves that I was always right.

Iran already knew and that's why they cut off the local internet because they were going to try to simulate this NARRATIVE inside Iran.
 
Developereo said:
He wants Ivanka to enter politics and continue his legacy. It's a long term plan but he wants to leave a positive legacy for her.
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No OT please. Lets take this discussion elsewhere .Nothing will happen to you but I will be thread banned !! 😐
 
Cesur said:
Honestly, I believe Pakistan stands as the only truly independent power in the Greater Middle East. All other countries have compromised their sovereignty by aligning too closely with the West offering everything from ground troops to airbases. We're fortunate to have China as a strategic partner. Now, we just need to get our act together and focus on strengthening our economy.
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Are you mad or who are you trying to fool ?.

You gave your airbases to US to bomb Muslims in Afghanistan remember ?. Your Army Chief and ISI chief were partying in White house 72 hours back .

Is this not total alignment/surrender to West ?
 
Scott Ritter is spot on.
Now both Iran and Israel will cease to build up for the next round, which will be much more disastrous for Israel. Will China now sell Iran Gen-5 aircraft?
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