Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[brainsucker]

I mean what are US/Israel demanding at negotiating table? Are they still insisting on zero enrichment or will they continue the strikes, otherwise?

No, they demand a regime change. The nuclear enrichment is only a justification or casus belli for their real intention.

 

[Forsvaret]

I mean what are US/Israel demanding at negotiating table?

They want "peace" from Iran in return for a "stop" in them getting bombed to Stone Age :

 

[j_hungary]

There are maga senators and representatives that are pissed off at Trump. People that were hardcore Trump like MTG, who are furious right now.

Well, it's one thing to not support Trump on Iran Policy, it's another thing to remove him and get JD Vance in, that would completely end the brand MAGA and GOP for the next decade if they turn on Trump. Dem remove him, that's okay, but if it was the GOP effort, that will piss off most voting base, the chance of GOP to get both house next year in Mid-Term is as low as it can be, why make it lower?

 

[muz]

There's no guarantee even if they reach and penetrate the hardened surfaces.

The way the facility is built at an angle, the explosion would almost certainly be contained to a small portion. The US would need to do dozens of these strikes to succeed in doing g any lasting damage, and they do not have a lot of these bombs in their inventory.

I think the biggest evidence we've seen is that there has been no indication of a collapse of the over land, or tremors resulting from this strike.

It almost certainly failed to achieve it's goals.

I will wait for a BDA

 

[A1Kaid]

It does not what they did have was exposed to IAEA inspectors
Its GG for Iran
eerily its similar to 1971 war for us

You don’t know that nor does anyone on this forum does.

However after 40 years it’s reasonable to assume they have secret facilities and only show IAEA a select few for compliance— this seems more plausible to me than 0 other unknown facilities it’s such a large mountainous country.

 

[StormBreaker]

True or not?

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[fallschirmjager786]

There are maga senators and representatives that are pissed off at Trump. People that were hardcore Trump like MTG, who are furious right now.

They will never impeach him. They will fall back in line

 

[HAIDER]

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[brainsucker]

US thought Israeli would easily handle Iran. All Western nations provided all top weapons for the purpose, but eventually US jumped in. This is more hate against US and Israel in the region and more benefits for Russia and China.

In contrary the fall of iran can bring all ME kings and dictactors to bow to US and Israel and China and Russia will lose their grip in ME

 

[Be dazzled]

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[StrategicBear]

People dont really understand U.S.A has whole western world behind them they arent divided like asia. what would china alone do,They are surrounded by usa Allies in Asia by japan,philipino , Australia etc,Even Pak will think twice to ally with china against west.China cant fight whole western world in any sphere.China is doing whats best for its people.

Why is the Whole Western World so united?

What would it take to topple them and White Supremacy? A natural disaster such as Yellowstone Supervolcano Eruption. If so, can't wait for the supervolcano eruption to happen so many White people's economic and military power be nerfed significantly even though the eruption will affect whole world's food production equally too....

 

[muz]

You don’t know that nor does anyone on this forum does.

However after 40 years it’s reasonable to assume they have secret facilities and only show IAEA a select few for compliance— this seems more plausible to be than 0 other unknown facilities it’s such a large mountainous country.

With how much infiltraited the IRGC is by Mossad even if they have secret facilities as you like to imagine those will or are taken out by IDF and IAF strikes
Its over

 

[Ficus]

Is it over?

 

[Forsvaret]

It is, but it came via a people's revolution

lol. The people’s revolution was against the Shah of Iran, and NOT for the installment for a permanent mullah autocratic regime in Iran.

 

[StormBreaker]

Iran must quietly leave this war, start focusing on foreign relations with China, Africa and SE Asia and keep india at bay. They need to build themselves now, a strong and armed Iran fully in the Chinese camp is more dangerous to USA's presence in the middle east.