Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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Dam these Americ****ts are that scared 😂😂 in a way this is good thing. No more meddling and terrorism in this region which is sponsored by the US and Israel.
 
Developereo said:
If I was Iran I was would not reveal anything and keep everyone guessing. Show video of some unnamed facility and keep everybody guessing whether its Fodrow or somewhere else.
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Nah, if I were Iran, I would want to let the Israelis know we are still alive and kicking.

I mean, you don't show the juicy stuff (Like the centrifuge), but enough to know it was Fordo and it wasn't damaged that much.
 
Starlord said:
I don't think that's how things work, they don't have to show any proof or videos, but coming to negotiation table could be a hint but they were already there before Israel bombed that negotiations, weather the facility got major/minor damage or completely gone will be seen through the future progress of Iran's nuclear program, I believe Iran should stop beating around the bush and test a nuke, that will give them a much needed leverage to negotiate on better terms, yes the risk is high but so is the reward because Israel with nukes is far more dangerous than Iran/ISIS/AQ/ if they had nukes.
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Well, you need both optics and strength if you want to play your hand right, I mean you don't need me to tell you this is what Israel trying to do since at least late 2024, when they taken out Hamas Leadership and then Hezbollah leadership respectively, they are shaping the battlefield for Iran, that's cannot be any clearer, which mean if you try to hide the damage, even tho it's not that much, that give the Israeli the upperhand, because people don't know how much damage it does, I am pretty sure Israeli knows it, the US knows it and the Iranian knows it, and there is a reason why the American didn't do what we do after in Afghanistan or Iraq after an Alpha Strike like that. That's showing the BDA after the strike, they did it with the MOAB drop in Afghanistan

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They still haven't done it today with the MOP

I don't say this often, but if you perceived weak, then you are weak, that's attract attention, and that is something you don't want if you are fighting enemy like the American or the Israeli, I mean do you think they will just let you go if you say "Oh you hit me and I hit you, let's call it even" Well, country like US and Israeli, we are like shark, we smell blood in the water, and if you are perceived weak, then I will just come at you even more. I mean I am not saying Iran should show them everything, like the reactor or centrifuge or anything, but enough to know that's Fordo, that show them you mean business.
 
Vapnope said:
Iran will not show anything and for the right reasons and negotiations after all this will be an eye wash. Even a kid knows now that US is Israel's pawn and will do anything and everything to keep the zionist entity breathing even at the cost of her very own citizens.
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As I said, this is what I will do, I mean you don't just fight war with strength, you fight war with optics, you see how the War in Gaza turned on Israel after they failed their optics after all those destruction being posted online? I don't know where you have been, but we don't fight wars with just sending people and missile killing each other anymore, it's all about optics, and nothing works optics better than showing your Alpha Strike did nothing

I mean of course Iran can do whatever they wanted, I am just saying if this was me, and the strike was not successful, I would show them they failed.
 
Some key takeaways from the events of the past week.

1) Iran has lost its nuclear saber-rattling leverage— the world now knows Iran doesn’t have a nuclear bomb.

2) The world witnessed two nuclear powers attack a non-nuclear country, something unprecedented.

3) Iran’s ability to recover from the initial decapitation strikes was underestimated by its enemies.

4) Iran is landing substantial damage to Israeli cities and is willing to respond strongly to the aggression both politically and militarily. They did not fold as their enemies expected.


5) India betrayed Iran. Not even a condemnation from India and India purposefully distanced itself from SCO condemnation. India either is scared to upset Israel and US or it supports the attacks on Iran.

6) Russia refuses to arm Iran because Putin “Israel is almost a Russian speaking country”… well so is Ukraine. It remains to be seen if Russia’s position changes but so far it has let Iran down badly, borderline betrayal.
 
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mangekyo said:
Not true. China refused to sell to us, Putin agreed but we still haven’t received a single jet. As he said himself, Israel is almost a Russian speaking country
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Not sure why China would refuse. They did sell Iran F-7.
 
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j_hungary said:
Well, you need both optics and strength if you want to play your hand right, I mean you don't need me to tell you this is what Israel trying to do since at least late 2024, when they taken out Hamas Leadership and then Hezbollah leadership respectively, they are shaping the battlefield for Iran, that's cannot be any clearer, which mean if you try to hide the damage, even tho it's not that much, that give the Israeli the upperhand, because people don't know how much damage it does, I am pretty sure Israeli knows it, the US knows it and the Iranian knows it, and there is a reason why the American didn't do what we do after in Afghanistan or Iraq after an Alpha Strike like that. That's showing the BDA after the strike, they did it with the MOAB drop in Afghanistan

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They still haven't done it today with the MOP

I don't say this often, but if you perceived weak, then you are weak, that's attract attention, and that is something you don't want if you are fighting enemy like the American or the Israeli, I mean do you think they will just let you go if you say "Oh you hit me and I hit you, let's call it even" Well, country like US and Israeli, we are like shark, we smell blood in the water, and if you are perceived weak, then I will just come at you even more. I mean I am not saying Iran should show them everything, like the reactor or centrifuge or anything, but enough to know that's Fordo, that show them you mean business.
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Again, that is not how world works, actually no military that include US/Israel goes on to make a video after their enemy allegedly attack a site or installation, remember when Iran launch BM strikes in US base in Iraq after Solemani's assassination ? I don't see any Video crew making videos showing that hey look Iran claim to have strike here and we are showing you evidence, same goes to every major strike missions, even in recent Indo Pak strikes you see Pakistan or India making videos of sites and proving that our Brigade HQ or Air base is standing ? that is just stupid.

I see a lot of Propaganda here from American's now It doesn't surprise me because of American's and their innate hatered towards Muslims/Islam so they are echoing the voices of Israel on the forum without realizing they look ridiculous, and before you claim you are neutral on this and other conflict, Please don't sweat it with me... I have seen Americans posts their neutral always means parroting Israel's/West Propaganda, always Pretending to "Critically Analyze" and looking for evidence when the claims are made by other side but all that Critical thinking put in back seat when Israel or west makes a claims.

Final Point which I agree that America/Israel and by extension West is like Shark or more like Hyenas, they come in group to prey upon weak, its the same game we see more times but because the world has no law and run by pedo lunatics which holds position of Power in Western Govts there isn't much the world can do but to just accept the Might is right, in a ideal world and a just world the entire leadership or EU/Israel and America will be hanging for war crimes, but that's not the world we live in nor we will ever because the loudest voices cry for justice and Freedom are the ones who will go to any extend to escape justice and allow freedom to others.
 
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