Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Nuclear SCIETISTS are not real scientists in a sense that they are not finding or developing any thing new. These scientists are more of people with technical knowhow and how to put things together.

Killing ALL nuclear scientists is like saying their have killed all the heart specialists.....even if all the heart specialists are killed there are doctors who can treat heart disease just that they will take longer to do because of the less experience or knowledge.

Iranian nuclear program is VERY safe because no one can kill off their technical know how and base. For example Pakistan nuclear program was not single handedly run by Dr. Qadir...he was a Metullargist just like my father...both trained and educated in top Western universities and then they trained hundreds more under them.......knowledge was passed on and even though they are both gone they did their job and educated hundreds more.....

So who ever says Iranian scientists are killed and who is going to run the program makes me laugh and mad at the same time....
Then what is ceasefire for ? I think the reality is trump statements are somewhat true the us b2 operation was a success to extent that iranian program has probably delayed for years. Im just shocked Iran ceasefire and that 6 hr fiasco.

Lesson for iran, never show off be silent. If you dont have nukes then dont even think about giving big statements. Iranian people are brave but the leadership was weak.
 
israel has been hitting hard today to push Iran to sign a ceasefire.

The precedent has been set, israel will now strike at will, every few months you will seee assassinations, bombings to deteriorate BM capabilities and AD capabilities. Nuclear program and scientists will be routinely hit.

In the meantime israel will replenish its AD and enhance it… terrible time to do a ceasefire, unless Iran has been a paper tiger all along and has few BMs left?

Hezbollah was right to sit this out, when they needed Iran the most, Iran sold them out.
Their target is to change regime and install raza pahalvi until then their wont be a true ceasefire from their side.
 
Will China help Iran and send it Army or Air defense systems? I don't think so, so why are you as Chinese encouraging Iran to keep fighting when everyone knows that they are not fighting Israel but US/NATO, they have combine power which your China or Russia wont dare cross, I am surprised Iran last this long against the coalition, fighting is easy but agreeing to peace is hard.
How much damage can the US do by dropping a few bombs halfway around the world? When Trump repeatedly boasts about the B-2's long-range bombing and stealth capabilities, Iran should quickly realize that there is a soft underbelly embedded in it, and that the U.S. is hiding the fact that they lack the ability to bomb Iran on a large scale and are afraid to commit ground troops. The main pressure on Iran comes from Israel, not some NATO. You can't tell me that Iran's will to resist Israel is only for a few days, can you? As for China, as soon as the US enters the battlefield, you'll see Chinese armaments move in quickly and without giving the US a chance to re-disengage from the battlefield. China's job is to make sure the US doesn't dare commit ground troops. As long as the US does not commit ground troops, the Iranian government cannot be overthrown by force unless they choose to surrender themselves.
 
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WTF kind of ceasefire is this?


There is no seize fire

Current situation

"I heard friend of my friend claim that two people talked about peace and we have peace"

We have above scenario on Twitter
 
It seems to me the popular quote of Chinese members here on PDF is "that it is dangerous to have the US as a close friend because when push comes to shove they may abandon you".

What can we say about China and its friend Iran?
Where was your helping hand in their time of great need??????

China and Iran are not currently Strategic friends, that is due to Iran. Maybe Iran will now finally find their manners and become friends with China after their humiliating defeat by Israel.
 
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WTF kind of ceasefire is this?

Apparently Iran has ceasefire but accepted that Israel can attack for another 6 hours
 
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I don't think the ceasefire will last, if its signed in the first place..
 
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:ROFLMAO:

This guy is not really on Irans side at all he works for US gov and was rooting for Israel on CNN and MSNBC. His masters (Israel) tried to do regime change, it failed. He's doing propaganda. That's all.
 

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