mangekyo
Trusted Member
Where are they going to get weapons from if Iran is out of the picture?
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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Where are they going to get weapons from if Iran is out of the picture?
Forsvaret
Trusted Member
What Israel gained from this "war":
- Complete air superiority over Iranian skies
- Obliteration of much of Iranian nuclear program along with many of its civilian top scientists and highest serving military leaders
- Exposure of the weaknesses and fatal flaws in Israel’s multilayered defensive capabilities
- The reporting and condemnation of ongoing Israeli war crimes in Gaza took a backseat
- Revelation of Iranian isolation at the world stage
codeforfood
Registered Member
You are selling your leaders short. This is the outcome your adversary wanted. I think Iran did well considering its obvious limitations.
RescueRanger
Meme Lord
Lol that base that has been attacked isn't even a W for Iran its a big L. Oh well.
Bharatah
Registered Member
"Khamenei himself posted... what's happening there?... I'll answer: it's like a coup d'état. The group working for Zionism inside [the system] is trying to push this narrative—now they've exposed themselves. They were the ones who killed Raisi, leaked the locations of military personnel, Hezbollah members, etc."
Falcon29
Elite Member
This is a shakey ceasefire. It's similar to some of the previous ones in Gaza where there is no actual commitment to non-aggression.
Israel is likely to be the aggressor again. After it gets more interceptors and fixes damage at Haifa Oil Refinery.
Israel is likely to be the aggressor again. After it gets more interceptors and fixes damage at Haifa Oil Refinery.
gambit
Professional
In other words, you advise Iran to become more democratic and inclusive.
RescueRanger
Meme Lord
That's it fighting is over folks:
Iranian Foreign Minister: The military operations of our powerful Armed Forces to punish Israel for its aggression continued until the very last minute, at 4am. Together with all Iranians, I thank our brave Armed Forces who remain ready to defend our dear country until their last drop of blood, and who responded to any attack by the enemy until the very last minute
Iranian Foreign Minister: The military operations of our powerful Armed Forces to punish Israel for its aggression continued until the very last minute, at 4am. Together with all Iranians, I thank our brave Armed Forces who remain ready to defend our dear country until their last drop of blood, and who responded to any attack by the enemy until the very last minute
Garcia Sea
Registered Member
Hezbollah fought for a year before surrendering.
Yemen fought a full-scale war against the U.S. for two months and secured an equal ceasefire.
Iran surrendered unconditionally in just 12 days.
This is a terrifying display of weakness. No one in the Middle East will take Iran seriously anymore; even Yemen will likely switch sides to the U.S. and Saudi Arabia.
Yemen fought a full-scale war against the U.S. for two months and secured an equal ceasefire.
Iran surrendered unconditionally in just 12 days.
This is a terrifying display of weakness. No one in the Middle East will take Iran seriously anymore; even Yemen will likely switch sides to the U.S. and Saudi Arabia.
Tamerlane
Trusted Member
I feel for you, the Palestinians. Your biggest supporter is out of the picture now. The only thing I can think of is that maybe the people of Gaza should leave. Victory will come one day, inshallah, but until then save the lives of the women and children from the Anglo-Zionist animals.
Forsvaret
Trusted Member
The Norwegian Nobel Peace Prize committee is also heavily scripted, so he might have a chance at "winning" this time.
Falcon29
Elite Member
High chance he or others are killed either by squads on ground or other means if they come out in public. Any 'ceasefire' they do these days is entirely for Israel's benefit. It's not like in the past where they actually respected cease fire agreements (but kept pressure via other means like blockade, flights, occasional ground incursions).
AZ_HighCountry
INT'L MOD
Might as well give one to Trump. They gave one to Obama just for waking up.The Norwegian Nobel Peace prize committee is also heavily scripted, so he might have a chance at "winning" this time.
AZADPAKISTAN2009
Elite Member
What Iran attained from this war
- Destroyed the Myth that Israel is protected with Magic from David's magic lamp
- Took out all airports
- Images of Missiles falling on Israel , spread happiness across the globe people of world enjoyed that alot (Tok Tokers went a bit wild)
- Slapped Netinyaho before he dies of Cancer
- Destruction of various critical infrastructure
- Destroyed myth of IRON dome
- Showcased it's Missile system is far ahead of Pakistan
- Highlighted to Russia-China need to support Iran for BRICs future
- Highlighted how many Nuclear bases Iran was making more then one as in Hollywood movies
- Ability to Strike Energy Grid , even Israel's Nuclear plant if needed
- Ability to cripple Israel if needed
- Attained respect of all Muslims across the Globe
What they lost
- Few old age people in their 50's and 60's retirement age
- GPS was shut down and Chinese system 100% active now
- Some buildings which can be reconstructed
- Internet for few days was off so people could not play fortnite
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Hayabusa
Registered Member
From my perspective, this was a marginal but significant win for Iran.
Despite the repeated assassinations of its nuclear scientists and direct attacks on key facilities, Iran’s nuclear program remains alive. It may have taken a huge bit, but it’s far from defeated. The infrastructure, the expertise, and the will to rebuild still exist.
One of the most important outcomes is that there was no regime change. Let’s be honest, that was a key objective for Israel and possibly its Western allies. The Iranian leadership remains intact, and the public stood firm despite the immense psychological and strategic pressure. Iran not only survived the decapitation strikes, it managed to rally support both internally and from key regional players like Pakistan and China.
However, survival alone is not enough. Iran must now learn and move swiftly. Sole reliance on air defense systems is proving insufficient. Israel’s domination of Iran’s airspace during the attacks exposed a major vulnerability. Iran urgently needs to develop an air force modeled after Pakistan’s not for power projection, but to deny air superiority and control its skies.
On the ground, Iran must overhaul its missile warfare doctrine. Its land-to-land tactics need modernization. A faster, more agile shoot-and-scoot capability is critical. During recent exchanges, Iran’s responses were sluggish, and the frequency of missile volleys diminished over time after its launchers were frequently targeted. That’s a weakness adversaries will exploit.
Strategically, Iran needs to reassess its alliances. India’s neutral stance and diplomatic tightrope walking show that it will not offer Iran any tangible support in times of crisis. Even Russia, with its strong Israeli diaspora and shifting priorities, is unreliable. Iran’s best hope lies in deepening ties with China and Pakistan. Both nations offer strategic depth economically, militarily, and diplomatically that Iran sorely needs.
And above all, Iran must prioritize the development of a nuclear deterrent. I don’t know how they will do it, but they must. The time for hesitation is over. National survival is now on the line. The events of this conflict should serve as the final wake-up call: Israel will strike again and next time, it will be more decisive, more intense, and possibly existential.
Iran barely made it through this round. There might not be a second chance. I hope the leadership wakes up to this.
Despite the repeated assassinations of its nuclear scientists and direct attacks on key facilities, Iran’s nuclear program remains alive. It may have taken a huge bit, but it’s far from defeated. The infrastructure, the expertise, and the will to rebuild still exist.
One of the most important outcomes is that there was no regime change. Let’s be honest, that was a key objective for Israel and possibly its Western allies. The Iranian leadership remains intact, and the public stood firm despite the immense psychological and strategic pressure. Iran not only survived the decapitation strikes, it managed to rally support both internally and from key regional players like Pakistan and China.
However, survival alone is not enough. Iran must now learn and move swiftly. Sole reliance on air defense systems is proving insufficient. Israel’s domination of Iran’s airspace during the attacks exposed a major vulnerability. Iran urgently needs to develop an air force modeled after Pakistan’s not for power projection, but to deny air superiority and control its skies.
On the ground, Iran must overhaul its missile warfare doctrine. Its land-to-land tactics need modernization. A faster, more agile shoot-and-scoot capability is critical. During recent exchanges, Iran’s responses were sluggish, and the frequency of missile volleys diminished over time after its launchers were frequently targeted. That’s a weakness adversaries will exploit.
Strategically, Iran needs to reassess its alliances. India’s neutral stance and diplomatic tightrope walking show that it will not offer Iran any tangible support in times of crisis. Even Russia, with its strong Israeli diaspora and shifting priorities, is unreliable. Iran’s best hope lies in deepening ties with China and Pakistan. Both nations offer strategic depth economically, militarily, and diplomatically that Iran sorely needs.
And above all, Iran must prioritize the development of a nuclear deterrent. I don’t know how they will do it, but they must. The time for hesitation is over. National survival is now on the line. The events of this conflict should serve as the final wake-up call: Israel will strike again and next time, it will be more decisive, more intense, and possibly existential.
Iran barely made it through this round. There might not be a second chance. I hope the leadership wakes up to this.
