Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[StormBreaker]

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[shapurzolaktaf]

No, I mean I'm afraid that they have assassinated Khamenei.
It's just an idea. I hope I'm wrong, but the Americans are sneaky as ****.
Maybe they talked about ceasefire to divert our attention from their plan to target Khamenei? They said they knew where he was and could target him.

I hope I'm completely wrong, but I'm surprised that Iran is hitting Israel like this.

Obviously, I'm not afraid of war. I was the one saying that we should not cease fire yet. I'm just starting to think something bad has happened that Iran is beating the crap out of Israel like this. 7 missile waves? That's unprecedented.

Lets suppose it's true, this man is 86, he will be known as Martyr forever in the history, soon Moharram starts, millions would mourn him as a heroic martyr. His grave would become a place to visit and remember, while Israeli conolists/terrorists will be remembered as the most evil cowards in modern history.

 

[Fatman17]

Unfortunately, the nature of this war makes it so that we'll never be able to get hard facts. We can only draw conclusions from publicly available information.

Which is 90% fake or unverified news esp X.

 

[StormBreaker]

Could be true since Iranian officials temporarily lost contact with the Supreme Leader, according to the reports last night.

That zion hoe natsecjeff has been pretty focused on Khameni

 

[Unknowntruth]

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[pashtunkoum]

Lets suppose it's true, this man is 86, he will be known as Martyr forever in the history, soon Moharram starts, millions would mourn as a heroic martyr. His grave would maybe become a place to visit and remember, while Israeli conolists/terrorists will be remembered as the most evil cowards in modern history.

Yes fair points and that’s why America doesn’t want to sanction it

But on the other hand if they do get him it’s a big symbolic gesture. Iran has one man they are trying to protect and Israel could show even that is not beyond their reach.

 

[Shakehands]

seems like I missed a lot!

 

[ShapurII]

Lets suppose it's true, this man is 86, he will be known as Martyr forever in the history, soon Moharram starts, millions would mourn as a heroic martyr. His grave would maybe become a place to visit and remember, while Israeli conolists/terrorists will be remembered as the most evil cowards in modern history.

Yes, but it will be a huge humiliation for Iran.
Also, it may signal the beginning of the next phase of their plan.

But it's all just speculation at this point.
I have been very critical of Khamenei in the past, but I truly hope he is safe now.

 

[Indos]

First of all, I actually believe US and Israel WILL strike that place again, I said it many time here on this thread alone.

There could not be doubt in any military operation, either you know it was destroyed and you stop striking it, or you don't and you go at it again, and again, and again, and again until you are sure. That's how military works.

And as I said, unless you believe Iran can continue their program download with US and Israel on their back like this, denaliability is not going to work especially you can't duplicate a site like Fordo.

This is I believe Iran response to 100 attack on Iran, including in Tehran, Yesterday for 2 hours

So I think the cease fire will continue

 

[Unknowntruth]

Sorry, this was too funny not to share.

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[Watandar]

In old PDF we had "articles" - not one liners or tweets - go to the Pakistan Army Archive page - that is the standard of posts we had. Researched and sourced. The standards have fallen with threads and posts laden with abuse and vitriol, makes it difficult to read and moderate.

You could restrict users to a quota of per day posts on very popular threads. That will make them think before posting.

I dont know the framework you use to host this new PDF but are there filters that can be used to check a user's post ? That way if you notice a Twitter account that you know is rubbish, you can add it to a blacklist and those particular posts get rejected. It will help keep this forum clean from junk twitter accounts.

 

[MLK!]

Its over bro - no Diamona big bang 2025 for you today. Iran gave it a good go - fired off a few last minute cigars. God bless Iran.

Now go get some rest.

What the hell happened man? I hope the Iranian posters who didn’t want a ceasefire are content now. Shit man.

 

[EyelessInGaza]

I am not ignorant to this fact having been posted to conflict zones in my lifetime outside of Pakistan. But there is a lot of misinformation in this thread alone, never mind other threads.

We will need to work on improving the quality of posts and the posting standards. It is something I intend admin will support.

Thank you.

I suppose speculation and guesswork is inevitable in such threads. Indeed some informed speculation is always welcome since we will probably never get even partially verified information. But I draw the line at rampant cope, outright lies, wild statements based on flimsy sources. That detracts from the main purpose of this thread which I’d think is to inform, discuss and debate.

 

[mangekyo]

Bro do you really care Trump gives a fck? The ceasefire is for the Israelis to regroup, strengthen their defences and attack your country again sometimes in future. Iran was giving them a severe pounding and Israeli IADS was running low on interceptors. IRI leadership gave their enemy breathing space.

Even if the ceasefire was just to resupply Israel, it was his statement. Responding now means he’s admitting “I had no control. I got played.”

Now, people are asking:

“Wait, wasn’t there a ceasefire?”
“Didn’t Trump just say it was over?”

He made a big declaration like he had just ended the conflict. Iran’s strike immediately after turns that into a farce. The orange man got fooled!

Timing the attack exactly as the ceasefire begins is a message that publicly humiliates the idea of U.S.-imposed order.

Trump now faces 3 bad options:
1. Attack again and look erratic and humiliated.
2. Do nothing and Iran escalates and U.S. looks weak.
3. Blame Israel or distance himself and look indecisive.

That’s the trap. Every move he can make is a loss and makes him lose face.

 

[Watandar]

Yes fair points and that’s why America doesn’t want to sanction it

But on the other hand if they do get him it’s a big symbolic gesture. Iran has one man they are trying to protect and Israel could show even that is not beyond their reach.

Khamenei may personally welcome his martyrdom. Almost everybody else he has worked with closely in last 30 years is gone.