Lessons for Pakistan from the Israel/Iran conflict of June 2025

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

we need to learn a lot from this, the is long and growing.

• Strengthen Early Warning Systems – Iran failed to detect incoming Israeli strikes in time. Pakistan must invest in multi-layered intelligence (SIGINT, HUMINT, GEOINT).
• Fix Counter-Intelligence Gaps – Prevent enemy infiltration of critical military and scientific infrastructure.
• Improve Inter-Agency Coordination – Seamless information flow between ISI, Air Force, Army, and Naval intelligence is essential.
• Monitor Strategic Installations – Establish 24/7 surveillance and internal vetting at nuclear, radar, and missile sites.
• Don’t Rely on Static SAM Systems Alone – Iran’s air defense was static and easily bypassed. Pakistan must use mobile, layered air defense.
• Deploy HQ-9B/HQ-19 Effectively – These must be integrated with radar, AWACS, and EW systems to be effective.
• Invest in Anti-Stealth Radar – Israeli F-35s evaded detection; Pakistan needs passive radar and VHF/L-band systems.
• Layered Defense is Crucial – Integrate short-, medium-, and long-range systems across cities, borders, and strategic zones.
• Permanent QRA (Quick Reaction Alert) – Pakistan should have QRA aircraft on standby 24/7 to intercept intrusions.
• Fast-Track Modern Fighter Integration – Maximize deployment of JF-17 Block III, J-10C, and J-35 (future).
• Advance EW Capabilities – Israeli EW overwhelmed Iranian radars. Pakistan must further develop jamming, spoofing, and counter-EW tech.
• Ensure Long-Range Strike Capability – Strengthen standoff weapons like Ra’ad II, Babur ALCMs, and H-4 glide bombs.
• Modernize War Doctrine – Shift from reactive defense to proactive deterrence and preemption capability.
• Decentralize Command & Control – Use mobile and hardened command centers to survive first strikes.
• War-Gaming Against Stealth/Surprise – Train for scenarios involving F-35, loitering munitions, and cyber-attacks.
• Establish Cyber Command – Israel used cyber tools for suppression; Pakistan must defend and counter in the digital domain.
• Electronic Surveillance & Passive Detection – Develop homegrown EW drones, jammers, and ELINT systems.
• Control the Narrative Early – Israel dominated global opinion. Pakistan must build a strategic communications wing for defense messaging.
• Counter Propaganda & Disinformation – Develop rapid-response teams to fight digital perception wars.
• Boost National Morale & Civil Defense Awareness – Prepare the public with drills, shelters, and awareness campaigns.
• Harden Nuclear & C4I Sites – Build underground and mobile structures to protect critical infrastructure.
• Redundancy is Key – Backup systems for radars, missiles, and command networks are essential for survivability.
• Build Diplomatic Shield – Strengthen alliances with China, Turkey, Gulf States, and Central Asia to deter aggression.
• Neutralize Enemy Influence in Region – Monitor and contain potential enemy staging or intelligence gathering from nearby countries.
• Leverage Soft Power – Use Pakistan's global image as a nuclear state with restraint to build international goodwill.

seems learning itself needs learning!

 

[RescueRanger]

Most of the current missiles which have long range are BMs and purpose for nuclear delivery. Pak needs a hypersonic long range conventional missile.

The other thing I would like is a low observable platform which can fly over contested hostile airspace at a long range, J35 may fulfil this role or a stealth long range drone.

There are things that are "advertised" and there are things that aren't. Pakistan is not in the business of advertising its capabilities unnecessarily. As I told another member who was living under some illusion that we are "ill-prepared" you only saw us use 1 missile system in an 8 hour engagement.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

There are things that are "advertised" and there are things that aren't. Pakistan is not in the business of advertising its capabilities unnecessarily. As I told another member who was living under some illusion that we are "ill-prepared" you only saw us use 1 missile system in an 8 hour engagement.

We should ask for help from iran into developing our Missile Forces, likewise we can return the favor by developing their Air Forces

 

[RescueRanger]

We should ask for help from iran into developing our Missile Forces, likewise we can return the favor by developing their Air Forces

Bro. You guys really underestimate your own missile weapons program.

 

[Path-Finder]

Put it another way, Israel took down Iran with just an airforce. Irans damage with missiles was limited compared to what Israel was doing. Irans ability to engage Israel was decreasing with the destruction of its launchers, whereas Israel maintained a very high temp of operations.

Israel will revisit its defence shield of course, but the consequence(ie measured in $ loss caused is massively in Israels favour ).

iznotreal has a backup plan called NATO, providing it with intel and logistical support to carry out its egregious plans. So we have an airforce centred around india. But we will have to look at threats beyond india and expand.
So I say Navy must have its own Air Wing independent from PAF.

Rocket force gives you a safe reach, an extended arm without any consequence to you. the defender goes bankrupt from firing AD and the collateral damage. If Iran had a robust enough air force then it would have been a force multiplier.

 

[Path-Finder]

Bro. You guys really underestimate your own missile weapons program.

The reverse engineered spike that Iran makes is something we can do with.

 

[F.O.X]

We should ask for help from iran into developing our Missile Forces, likewise we can return the favor by developing their Air Forces

Our missile program is at least a decade ahead of Iran, Pakistan does not show its capabilities unless absolutely necessary. that is how we are able to fend of an enemy at least 10 times bigger than us in every way an form.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Our missile program is at least a decade ahead of Iran, Pakistan does not show its capabilities unless absolutely necessary. that is how we are able to fend of an enemy at least 10 times bigger than us in every way an form.

Honestly do you think we secretly produce hypersonic missiles?

 

[F.O.X]

Honestly do you think we secretly produce hypersonic missiles?

the reason it is called secret is because it is not leaked on defense forums.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

the reason it is called secret is because it is not leaked on defense forums.

I hope we have stuff in our sleeves


After all what ISPR said is we havent even shown our true capabilities hmmmmm

 

[Watandar]

Bro. You guys really underestimate your own missile weapons program.

what we saw during recent war with India was unimpressive. We can learn from Iran how to pierce multi layer missile defense system.

 

[frontline360news]

Our missile program is at least a decade ahead of Iran, Pakistan does not show its capabilities unless absolutely necessary. that is how we are able to fend of an enemy at least 10 times bigger than us in every way an form.

Pakistan's missile program has been a cornerstone of its defense strategy, successfully deterring larger adversaries through calculated restraint rather than reckless shows of force. But as the world enters the hypersonic age where missiles fly at unimaginable speeds and evade even advanced defenses. Can Pakistan afford to stand still?

Global powers and regional rivals like India are racing to develop these game changing weapons. While Pakistan's current arsenal remains formidable, future missile defenses could weaken its deterrent edge. Hypersonics aren't about aggression, they're about preserving the careful balance that's kept the region stable for decades.

Geopolitical analysts understand this paradox well. They may voice concerns about arms proliferation, but they also recognize that in geopolitics, staying relevant means staying ahead. The question isn't whether Pakistan should pursue hypersonic technology, but how soon it must begin to ensure its hard-won security doesn't erode in the coming years.

This isn't about joining an arms race—it's about maintaining the credible deterrence that has protected Pakistan's sovereignty against overwhelming odds. In the unforgiving calculus of modern warfare, sometimes the best way to keep the peace is to make sure no one ever doubts your ability to defend it.

 

[RescueRanger]

what we saw during recent war with India was unimpressive. We can learn from Iran how to pierce multi layer missile defense system.

The people who study these things have not rested on their laurels. Give them some credit.

 

[arsalan345]

So many lessons. Biggest lesson is to help countries that are fighting same enemy. Iran shares common goal and that is it's fight against Israel. I hope Iran realized that India is not a friend but enemy. If they make ties severe with India, we will cooperate like close military cooperation. Arm them to the teeth and they should sign an agreement that they will never threaten us. They should also solve this BLA issue now. It's time for iran to help Pakistan. Helping India doesn't save Iran as India wil continue to harm Iranian interest in the region just for israel.

Iran needs airforce. Pakistan can help them rebuild. Iran is the only force that actually managed to do some harm on Israel. Netanyahu was literally crying after destruction in Tel aviv. Pakistan should also procure hypersonic missiles from Iran. Some of them landed successfully on Israel. We need similar technology to teach India a lesson. It's time for Iran to see who helped Iran or not. India stood by Israel and not Iran. Indian agency is involved in the bloodshed in Iran. Iran should open eyes and throw all indians out of their country. It's time for Pakistan to ask Iran to formally made a bloc cobsisting of Iran, China, Turkey, Azerbaijan. We must help these countries at all costs. We must help iran as it's crucial for own safety.

As a sign of goodwill, we should give some f-7s to Iran. We should train their pilots on these f-7s. They can later learn to fly j-10c. Time to make ties stronger. Iran should help Pakistan in this BLA issue. We should also help them against adl. These arab groups are a cancer for Pakistan. Time to reset ties and take them to another level. Arabs will not like it but trust me, arabs can't do anything in any conflict. They can't even save themselves. They are like sellouts.

Long live Iran pakistan friendship. I thought Iran is not important but recent conflict showed me importance of Iran. Take steps Iran. remove indians from your soil.Thanks.

 

[Abid123]

Here is what Pakistan needs to focus on:
1. Economy
2. Economy
3. Economy
4. Economy
5. Economy