Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[coffee_cup]

Why is this gambit dude suddenly active posting on this thread all of a sudden? He wasn't this active posting here during the first 3 days of this War, so what changed?

This guy along with Raptor-Bob are quite possibly paid trolls. Both originate from Vietname/Philipines and are most active on threads where NATO/Zion propaganda has to be pushed.

They will repeat unrelated tweets and posts (check their posts from other threads such as Russia/Ukraine) to get an idea. Same BS over and over again.

"I am an ex US Airforce airman" or whatever to boast own credentials. Whereas in reality perhaps washing airplane tyres, who knows.

 

[Bengal71]

I'm not sure about the cascading of our centrifuges at Natanz. We used to operate IR-1, IR-2, IR-2m, IR-4 and IR-6 centrifuges at Natanz. So, assuming that nothing had changed before the war, I doubt that's true.
And also, from what I know previously, could be wrong now, but we do not operate IR-7 in cascades yet. We haven't even mass-produced IR-7 yet.

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[mulj]

Explain these "close connections". Other than Chabahar Port, which is already a stalled project, what other "close connections" do we have with them?

We even kicked them out of the Farzad-B gas field because of their delay and hesitation. I believe the same will happen at Chabahar eventually. They haven't done much there.

whatever they are in eyes of pakistan and china, you should drop balancing act in your foreign policy and start doing it on real politic base and deliver concrete agreements, now more than ever your need is rectifying and enhancing your military strentgh and that is the axis around which you should spin your foreign policy, india in that case is simply big surplus and obstacle.
pakistan and china can deliver hundreds of aircrafts and establish proper modern airforce in short time with complementing AD, what is there more to consider?

 

[lightning f57]

CNN and NYT nuff said. They will and have lied about Trump and will lie or allowed to be lied to if it means undermining the Orange man. I posted this earlier...

-If Fordow isn’t now a hive of activity? It’s done. If the regime isn’t frantically repairing the approach roads? It’s done. If they aren’t pulling all that earth crammed into the tunnel entrances? It’s done.

Mere power interruptions can destroy high-speed centrifuges. They HATE vibration of any kind. (12) 30,000 pound high-order explosive deep penetrators delivered a monumental amount of vibration, let alone explosive effects. My money is on Fordow being rendered useless. Activity- or the lack of it- will be the tell. I doubt the Iranians now have the time or the money to pretend to work on this facility.

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Iran would have gotten bombed again if it were so "they" want the conflict to continue and at the same time discredit Orange man. These are the same people that made up the Russian collusion hoax these media outlets will never be trusted again which is why they are sinking in ratings.

There is an alternative.

Iran moved out all the advance centrifuges and nuclear material before Israel even attacked to an undisclosed site. If that is the case even if fordo is not damaged much they may not want to use it right now anyway given the worlds attention is on it.

 

[ShapurII]

whatever they are in eyes of pakistan and china, you should drop balancing act in your foreign policy and start doing it on real politic base and deliver concrete agreements, now more than ever your need is rectifying and enhancing your military strentgh and that is the axis around which you should spin your foreign policy, india in that case is simply big surplus and obstacle.

Yes, sorry, we don't care. We're not going to corner ourselves for China and Pakistan. China herself is not to be trusted to begin with. There are rumors that they might have sold confidential information about the South Pars project to Qatar. And Pakistan hasn't finished their side of the gas pipeline yet. How can we trust Pakistan if it is not willing to do something that is really good for them, because of foreign pressure? Pakistan could've enjoyed cheap flow of energy from us since 2015 but it hasn't lifted a finger yet.

No country dictates our foreign policies, except for Russia unfortunately. And that's because Khamenei is a Russian agent lol

China has other excuses. It's mostly the US sanctions, and then her ties with Arab sheikhdoms. If China wants Iran to reduce our ties with India, it should first prove that it is willing to reduce her ties with the Arabs that want Iran destroyed. China-Iran partnership just cannot happen in its full capacity. The best that can happen between us is that China doesn't exert pressure on North Korea and North Korea would act like a proxy between us, just like it did during the Iraq-Iran war.

 

[Meengla]

I have no objections to Iran purchasing JF-17s. Iran needs to rebuild its air fleet and JF-17s are a good candidate but what Iran needs more is J-35s and Awacs!

China will indeed get a lot of military orders after their hardware proved effective in the India-Pakistan conflict in May 2025; potentially hundreds of billions of $ in next few years. But I don't know if even the Chinese are able to provide fighter jets in significant numbers on timely basis. They have their own needs as once the Middle East is off the American back enough then attention will again shift to South China Sea. Notice how little SCS has been mentioned in last 3-4 years; that's at least to some extent due to the Ukraine and the Middle East conflicts.
And I imagine Pakistan's fighter jet production speed is not much.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Here's my list:

Severe our ties:
1. Germany
2. The UK
3. France
4. Argentina
5. Jordan

Reduce our ties:
6. Italy
7. Iraq
8. Qatar
9. Republic of Azerbaijan
10. Russia
11. India
12. Lebanon

Improve our ties:
1. Pakistan
2. Spain
3. Ireland
4. Brazil
5. China
6. Algeria
7. Tunisia

Goodluck!

Indians deserve you and you deserve indians!

no body in the world wants indian friendship.... and, look at China, that country alone should be your top priority...

I guess, China and Pak. belong to some low race, unlike, Iranian and Indian super race!

 

[ShapurII]

Goodluck!

Indians deserve you and you deserve indians!

no body in the world wants indian friendship.... and, look at China, that country alone should be your top priority...

I guess, China and Pak. belong to some low race, unlike, Iranian and Indian super race!

It has nothing to do with race. We know that China prefers Arab and US money to her ties with Iran. It's a fact that's been established for nearly 2 decades after testing them multiple times. What does it have to do with race?

 

[_NOBODY_]

Americans face a choice. They need to decide if they’re going to continue being slaves of 15 million Jews and keep fighting 2 billion Muslims forever. That’s 25%+ of the world’s population.

America is bankrupt today because they spent the last 40 years killing millions of Muslims. Their debt went up by over $10 trillion and that time was used by China to become the number one superpower in manufacturing and technology.

America is controlled by 6.2 million Jews and spends all its energy keeping a genocidal Jewish ethno-fascist colony going. It’s much cheaper to give the 7.3 million settlers citizenship and move them to America and Europe.

With the Jew problem solved they can concentrate on making America great again.

The US controlled by 6.2 million Jews, but Christian Zionists. Christian Zionists are 100 times more pro-Israel than your average Zionist.

 

[Meengla]

Yes, sorry, we don't care. We're not going to corner ourselves for China and Pakistan. China herself is not to be trusted to begin with. And Pakistan hasn't finished their side of the gas pipeline yet.
No country dictates our foreign policies, except for Russia unfortunately. And that's because Khamenei is a Russian agent lol
China has other excuses. It's mostly the US sanctions, and then her ties with Arab sheikhdoms. If China wants Iran to reduce our ties with India, it should first prove that it is willing to reduce her ties with the Arabs that want Iran destroyed. China-Iran partnership just cannot happen. The best that can happen between us is that China doesn't exert pressure on North Korea and North Korea would act like a proxy, just like it did during the Iraq-Iran war.

India doesn't offer much to Iran; on the contrary, more Mossad saboteurs and spies. You dont have to dump India for any other country but be aware. Also, India once again stupidly did diplomatic blunders by dissociating itself from the SCO statement and hardly offered any support to Iran. As for the Pakistan-Iran pipeline, it was a stupid mistake by the then Pakistani civilian leadership to start that project, hoping that Americans won't sanction Pakistan over that. But if/when Pakistan is able to show enough spine to the Americans or the Americans give an 'exception' to Pakistan for the pipeline then the rest of the pipeline could be build. Counting on Russia will not help much; they have much on their plate in a war which Putin himself has called 'existential'.
China is Iran's only realistic option for quality military hardware at the moment.

 

[hussain0216]

I know you don't want to hear this, but the truth must be told:
India didn't support Iran during the war, and it took back its condemnation of the war, but it didn't really do much against us either. They tried to stay out of the conflict. If we want to severe our ties with some countries, I'm sure that India will be at the bottom of the list.

The UK, France, Germany and a few other European countries fully supported Israel during the war, even condemned Iran for resisting the imposed war and reiterated their mantra "Israel has a right to defend itself". Argentina said Iran was the enemy of the Western civilization. Again, I reiterate that Iraq was an 8-lane expressway for the Israeli Air Force. Jordan participated in the war against us. Qatar allowed the US to launch their attack on Fordow and Natanz from their territory. Russia said that many Israelis were Russian-speaking people and Russia would consider this. It also said that Russia-Israel relations were based on mutual trust.

Trust me, some Europeans and some Arabs are way higher in the list than India. The only thing that India did was to stay out of the conflict, and it was criticized inside India by people like Sonia Gandhi. Not even a single Indian was arrested as a Mossad spy, contrary to what you guys write here all the time. Of course, India will never be seen positively inside Iran after this, mainly because of how Islamophobic and Israeli-loving they are, but to be fair, they weren't really a problem in this war.

The indians are a harami population and you must factor that in

Their is a good reason why Muslims of South Asia hate the Hindus so much, they are a avowed enemy that we would never ever trust

You can see the amount of indians (Hindus) who were supporting the Zionists in slaughtering Palestinians and attacking Iran


See a enemy for what it is

 

[Psyko70]

Goodluck!

Indians deserve you and you deserve indians!

no body in the world wants indian friendship.... and, look at China, that country alone should be your top priority...

I guess, China and Pak. belong to some low race, unlike, Iranian and Indian super race!

Iran learned nothing, nothing.

 

[mulj]

Yes, sorry, we don't care. We're not going to corner ourselves for China and Pakistan. China herself is not to be trusted to begin with. There are rumors that they might have sold confidential information about the South Pars project to Qatar. And Pakistan hasn't finished their side of the gas pipeline yet. How can we trust Pakistan if it is not willing to do something that is really good for them, because of foreign pressure? Pakistan could've enjoyed cheap flow of energy from us since 2015 but it hasn't lifted a finger yet.

No country dictates our foreign policies, except for Russia unfortunately. And that's because Khamenei is a Russian agent lol

China has other excuses. It's mostly the US sanctions, and then her ties with Arab sheikhdoms. If China wants Iran to reduce our ties with India, it should first prove that it is willing to reduce her ties with the Arabs that want Iran destroyed. China-Iran partnership just cannot happen in its full capacity. The best that can happen between us is that China doesn't exert pressure on North Korea and North Korea would act like a proxy between us, just like it did during the Iraq-Iran war.

ok, i you want to play movie alone against all it is your choice, i sincerely wish you success in that.

 

[ShapurII]

India doesn't offer much to Iran; on the contrary, more Mossad saboteurs and spies. You dont have to dump India for any other country but be aware. Also, India once again stupidly did diplomatic blunders by dissociating itself from the SCO statement and hardly offered any support to Iran. As for the Pakistan-Iran pipeline, it was a stupid mistake by the then Pakistani civilian leadership to start that project, hoping that Americans won't sanction Pakistan over that. But if/when Pakistan is able to show enough spine to the Americans or the Americans give an 'exception' to Pakistan for the pipeline then the rest of the pipeline could be build. Counting on Russia will not help much; they have much on their plate in a war which Putin himself has called 'existential'.
China is Iran's only realistic option for quality military hardware at the moment.

But Indians were not caught as Mossad spies. I mean, we have arrested 700 people so far. Nearly all of the foreigners were Afghan, with a few exceptions of people of European origin. Afghans were a major problem for us in this war, not anybody else.

India is not a partner of Iran. People on PDF think they are because of the Chabahar Port, which was first offered to the Chinese, but nobody in Iran considers India to be our partner and our economic ties are very limited now, and our military ties are nonexistent.

China was seen as an alternative in early 2000s, they were given huge projects, thousands of Chinese people lived in Tehran at the time, but it was the Chinese that decided to reduce their ties with Iran over US and Arab money. They even started this by passing 4 rounds of UN Security Council sanctions on Iran, which hurt the Chinese companies who worked with Iran as well. You can't force a country to trade with you if they don't want to.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

It has nothing to do with race. We know that China prefers Arab and US money to her ties with Iran. It's a fact that's been established for nearly 2 decades after testing them multiple times. What does it have to do with race?

no, China does not.
But you cant see Chinese geo-politics with European eyes, I think thats the problem!

Iran was always European ally. That bias is exploited by all the major power.
I hope B2 bombing can wash away that bias.