Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[mangekyo]

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[Shags101]

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But he also said he was meeting with Iranianss next week I’m hoping that’s just another of his I’m telling them to get their butts over here and they’re like did he really just say that and just ignore him. These negotiations aren’t negotiations their just demands and now he’s going to attempt to add ballistic missiles to the demands so let’s see what happens

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Here is what Iran is saying publicly:

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

That's not the point. You're misinterpreting what I said. The point is that such a system has been developed and has been in use. Even if it correctly identifies 'Khamas', it's still quite evil to use personal data for such military purposes.

Oh I agree
Just couldn’t resist poking at the IDF’s sickening use of AI to perpetrate a genocide.

 

[Shags101]

Has anyone named these "unnamed sources" everyone is hanging their hats on as gospel?

No Israelis don’t want to openly disagree with trump or they will face his fury if they embarrass the guy if the Israelis believe a lot of Irans nuclear capabilities are intact that means they are and now that makes Iran a lot more of wild card than before they got hit on their land by Israel and America we have uranium no one knows where it is not even America or Israel as far as we know some people think it was moved into fordow 2.0 I forgot the name of the place but that site is even deeper underground and far harder to destroy than fordow

 

[Arash]

Here is what Iran is saying publicly:

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Wiser communication by them

 

[mulj]

Here is what Iran is saying publicly:

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That is smart as people here already suggested even if they are not that damaged claim otherwise and do your job silently and undisturbed by IAEA.
First smart afterwar move by iranians.

 

[Arash]

But he also said he was meeting with Iranianss next week I’m hoping that’s just another of his I’m telling them to get their butts over here and they’re like did he really just say that and just ignore him. These negotiations aren’t negotiations their just demands and now he’s going to attempt to add ballistic missiles to the demands so let’s see what happens

He always says one thing then the opposite....

 

[mangekyo]

But he also said he was meeting with Iranianss next week I’m hoping that’s just another of his I’m telling them to get their butts over here and they’re like did he really just say that and just ignore him. These negotiations aren’t negotiations their just demands and now he’s going to attempt to add ballistic missiles to the demands so let’s see what happens

Maybe now that he’s on a streak he’ll actually give us a good deal. He can be the one that stopped the Iran-zionist empire war. Negotiated the Iran deal and won the Nobel peace prize. The guy has a huge ego, this is the best he can do

 

[mangekyo]

That is smart as people here already suggested even if they are not that damaged claim otherwise and do your job silently and undisturbed by IAEA.
First smart afterwar move by iranians.

«our nuclear facilities are completely damaged, so there’s no need to cooperate with IAEA anymore»

 

[Arash]

just read the comments below that tweet!

However the tweet is directed toward Indian people, not the government obviously

 

[samejjangir]

So I saw the headline of report Irans defense minister has gone to china only reason would be to ask for defensive weapons I can only assume it was from Bloomberg couldn’t read it so if anyone actually has any information let us know

Iranian minister went to China for SCO meeting & likely assistance against any future western aggression.

It doesn't matter. Even if ratified by Iran one hour before the war, it was legally effective on June 12th. Period. The deal clearly mentions defense partnership. So, it does not exclude military alliance at all. Stop making up shit you don't know about.

There was no mutual defence clause. This was explicitly stated by both parties after January signing. It doesn't exclude military alliance but it doesn't include it either. One can only speak about good faith relations based on the agreement for expecting Russian aid. But Iran didn't show good faith either by delaying the ratification.

It's quite clear that I was talking about 2015 when Iran asked Russia to join the Syrian civil war, not now.
Do you think Russia donated S300's to Iran? Of course they had to pay for it. Still, nobody other than Iran and North Korea have armed Russia during this war, including your own country India.

India has sent lots of black market spare parts for Russian Airbus & Boeing planes, semiconductor chips etc. Iran arming Russia was not too significant as it was just basic drone made from open market supplies. Iran didn't agree for its people to fight in Russia like the North Koreans who actually sent some of the soldiers to fight. Selling low technology drones is not really something to boast as critical assistance.

They actually do, because the US secondary sanctions effectively targets any entity that deals with sanctioned entities in Iran. The US-China trade is north of $500 billion dollars, while the Iran-China trade volume is about $35 billion dollars. Add to this Arab money as well. Name those other reasons.

Secondary sanctions or any form of sanctions on China will ruin USA. If USA cuts its trade with China, USA will collapse but China will remain. It is in USA's interest to not sanction China.

The only thing that China may care for is Arab relations as Arabs are a much bigger oil supplier to China than Iran. Arabs are even willing to increase oil output to compensate for any loss of Iranian oil. Unless Iran manages to supply much higher quantities of oil than its current 1.5MBpd, China or anyone else can't ignore Arabs in favour of Iran.

It appears that OPEC increasing oil supplies in recent months was due to a deal struck with USA & Israel to attack Iran. This is likely the reason why Russia, China and others chose to keep quiet. All of them have better relations with Arabs than with Iran

 

[Arash]

Why post shitraeli crap here ?

 

[Liquidator]

Here is what Iran is saying publicly:

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If I were Iran I'd say they've been completely obliterated and they will no longer bother....

 

[ShapurII]

Iranian minister went to China for SCO meeting & likely assistance against any future western aggression.

What does that have to do with anything now? Why are you opening an irrelevant dialogue to your already long, boring dialogue?

There was no mutual defence clause. This was explicitly stated by both parties after January signing. It doesn't exclude military alliance but it doesn't include it either. One can only speak about good faith relations based on the agreement for expecting Russian aid. But Iran didn't show good faith either by delaying the ratification.

There is. Even Wikipedia mentions it. Unless you think someone in India knows about this deal better than an Iranian. It's been in newspapers forever. An agreement is not signed based on good faith and it is not up to an Indian to determine whether it's been in good faith or not.

From Wikipedia: The agreement is designed to govern relations between Russia and Iran for the next 20 years, covering various areas including defense, counter-terrorism, energy, finance, and culture.

Also, from Reuters, quoting Sergey Lavrov: https://www.reuters.com/world/russi...-will-include-defence-lavrov-says-2024-10-31/

India has sent lots of black market spare parts for Russian Airbus & Boeing planes, semiconductor chips etc. Iran arming Russia was not too significant as it was just basic drone made from open market supplies. Iran didn't agree for its people to fight in Russia like the North Koreans who actually sent some of the soldiers to fight. Selling low technology drones is not really something to boast as critical assistance.

That's probably all that India can do anyway. India can hardly produce anything of quality to send to Russia to begin with. Iran on the other hand exported cutting-edge high-tech gas turbines and overhauled Russian passenger aircrafts for Russia.
Pakistan humiliated India in a way that is going to be remembered for decades. Obviously, that negatively impacts the impression of India's defense industries around the world. Indians are also too physically weak to be sent to fight in any war. Short statured, small framed and weak unfortunately.

Secondary sanctions or any form of sanctions on China will ruin USA. If USA cuts its trade with China, USA will collapse but China will remain. It is in USA's interest to not sanction China.

The only thing that China may care for is Arab relations as Arabs are a much bigger oil supplier to China than Iran. Arabs are even willing to increase oil output to compensate for any loss of Iranian oil. Unless Iran manages to supply much higher quantities of oil than its current 1.5MBpd, China or anyone else can't ignore Arabs in favour of Iran.

It appears that OPEC increasing oil supplies in recent months was due to a deal struck with USA & Israel to attack Iran. This is likely the reason why Russia, China and others chose to keep quiet. All of them have better relations with Arabs than with Iran

Secondary sanctions exist, like it or not, and OFAC is enforcing them. A lot of Chinese countries do follow these sanctions. Even Chinese banks follow these sanctions against Iranian individuals unfortunately.

Arabs are US-strategic allies. The US has tremendous amount of influence over Arab oil output and China cannot change that anytime soon. It is the Arab oil that is keeping the US dollar as the world's leading currency. But I don't disagree with this part of your argument and I had already mentioned it before.