Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

I think having the capability of producing several hundred fighter jets and actually producing 700 of these in a year is two different things things unless china can sell 200 hundred or more a year to countries around the world it would be nice if the Chinese step up to counter Israeli and American threats but any high value product china sends I’m assuming they will be there watch it doesn’t get into Israeli hands

Sorry, I corrected it immediately after writing that. You're too fast lol It's 120 J-20 units per year.

 

[Homajon]

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Iranian defense minister arrives in Qingdao for SCO meeting

Iranian Defense Minister Aziz Nasirzadeh on Wednesday arrived in Qingdao, east China's Shandong Prov

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[ShapurII]

Iran should not say no to HQ-9/19/22 and S-350/400/500 or TorM2 and Pantsir

We should do like China, shuffle the AD systems with Iranian ones, Russian and Chinese ones and make them work together in the IADS

Pakistan has shot down 4th gen fighters with HQ-9

Hoping they learn from the mistakes

Have we deployed even a single unit of Bavar-373?
@Persian Gulf @Immortals

 

[SABRE]

Praying that there is a J-10CE+JF-17+KJ-500 full package

Pray for HQ-9 as well.

 

[tsunset]

Have we deployed even a single unit of Bavar-373?
@Persian Gulf @Immortals

I think one was seen on satellite imagery

But likely destroyed with S-300, otherwise we would have seen at least 1 or 2 jets downed

Iran should never give up its domestic SAMs, Iran took 20 years of R&D to have B-373, it works better than S-300, the only issue is the production rate

Iran should search for a way to protect the SAMs from drone and ATGM attacks from the inside

 

[Shags101]

Pray for HQ-9 as well.

Is it me or do they also need to revamp their entire border surveillance reason why Israel was able to get in people weapons and everything in between was because of their borders

 

[Shags101]

I think one was seen on satellite imagery

But likely destroyed with S-300, otherwise we would have seen at least 1 or 2 jets downed

Iran should never give up its domestic SAMs, Iran took 20 years of R&D to have B-373, it works better than S-300, the only issue is the production rate

Iran should search for a way to protect the SAMs from drone attacks from the inside

Or just have china come in and revamp their production capabilities look at Pakistan

 

[SolarWarden]

Haaretz
3 hours ago

Report: Outcome of U.S. strike on Fordow 'really not good' Israeli source says​

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Satellite picture taken on June 22, 2025 shows an overview of Iran's Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant (FFEP) after U.S. air strikes were conducted on the facility, northeast of the city of Qom.Credit: AFP/-
Two Israeli sources told U.S.-based ABC News that calling the operation a success would be premature at this stage, while one source downplayed the damage.


According to the report, the source who downplayed the strike's damage said that the outcome is "really not good."


ABC reported that the sources don't know how much enriched uranium might have been transferred from the site before the strikes or how many centrifuges remain operational.


Verifying the strike's outcome could take months, one source told ABC.

"Sources" Riiiight.
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[vmro]

To understand how 6.2 million Jews in the US control the country would require a whole book. Simply put, a small number of very rich Jews control politicians of both parties by making donations. They use a small carrot and big stick approach. They contribute a small amount to all politicians. If they vote against Israel then they contribute a large amount to their opponent. Each US politician answers to a Jew appointed to monitor them. Plus, Jews also own the media which is critical to win elections.

Different groups are given different things to support Israel. Evangelical preachers are in their pockets and use biblical narrative to support Israel. The defense industry gets funding to make wars, academics get funding for research, the oil industry gets high oil prices. And so on.

In short, everyone gets some benefit from supporting Israel.

Their first major blow is msm oblivion and inability to control information processing and interpretation...new technology made laughingstock from entire media landscape...and its obviously something is changing there...

They have money, but they are not the only ones that have money...who controls the information controls the politics and public discourse...

They were caught off guard, and they will lose that war, anyway, Iran will have to finish wisely and prepared this last demonstration of power by doomed rivals...they are STILL dangerous. ..

 

[Ali_Baba]

The biggest obstacle is pilot training in my opinion. It's going to take 2-3 years to train a pilot for real combat.

It is a good thing that the Iranian air force did not sacrifice good experienced pilots in F4s to go up against F-15/16/35's. I suspect it will take less time for an experienced pilot to transition over. PAF pilots underwent this transition so they are aware of the overall training programme. Fighter tactics and war doctrine to use these new platforms overall may take longer than training pilots to operate the platform.

 

[hasn2009]

 

[LittleFish]

I believe we should reduce our ties with Russia.
I even mentioned why, in an earlier post, that Putin said two things that completely invalidated all their claims of friendship with Iran:

1. Putin said that many Israelis were Russian-speaking people and Russia considers this in their relations with Israel (i.e. we see Israel as a brotherly nation)
2. Putin said that Russia-Israel relations were based on mutual trust (i.e. we will never do something that is against the interests of Israel)

Also, Russian exported equipment have performed quite poorly against Israel. Russia cannot be trusted. I think at this point, the only country that we can truly trust is North Korea.

These were just excuses of Putin, since Russia benefits the most from Iran-Israel war.

As long as the war continues, oil prices will increase, and weapons supplies intended for Ukraine will be reallocated to Israel, both will alleviate the pressure on Russia very much. There was news that Russia tried to take the war as leverage to bargain with China about the gas pipeline construction, what a bitch.

Russia weapons has proven to be junk again during the war, just forget Su35 and S300 which proven useless against the West. It is wise for your defense minister to choose China as the destination right after the war, since only we have everything your army needs.

As for North Korea, everyone knows they did contribute much to Iran’s ballistic missiles and nuclear projects, but there is nothing more North Korea can offer, at least I don’t believe Kim will sell nukes to Iran.

 

[hasn2009]

 

[Khansaheeb]

It’s a news report, not "truth" report.

More like "lie" report

 

[the saint]