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[Tariq Habib Afridi]

My estimate is this
Brahmos:
8?(Bholari)
12?(Shehbaz)
12?(Sargodha)
2? (Sukkur)
2 (Karachi)
2? (Murid)
4? (Shorkot)

Rampage
1? (Lahore)

Scalp
2? (Sargodha)
3 (Nur Khan)

what is the range of Scalp and Rampage? Brahmos some too may have been air launched using Su30? how far are those aircrafts from the border? if we say they were way beyong 200km from border than some of these bases are way more far from remaining range of air launched missiles ?

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Bear in mind numbers of Scalp and Rampage were much bigger.

you mean they were in large intercepted?

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

@farooqbhai your posts have sparked several questions in my mind:

1. Are most of these missiles air-launched? Reports suggest that after May 6-7, Indian aircraft operated over 200 km from our border. How could they strike targets so deep inside our territory? Some of our airbases, like Nur Khan, are 100-150 km from the border. How is this possible?
2. If Indian aircraft can hit us from beyond the range of our PL-15 missiles and HQ-9 air defense systems, does this mean they possess very long-range air-launched missiles? Do we have comparable long-range air-launched missiles? If so, why haven’t we used them to strike deep into their territory?

I’d appreciate your insights or anyone else’s thoughts on these points!

 

[Princeps]

My estimate is this
Brahmos:
8?(Bholari)
12?(Shehbaz)
12?(Sargodha)
2? (Sukkur)
2 (Karachi)
2? (Murid)
4? (Shorkot)

Rampage
1? (Lahore)

Scalp
2? (Sargodha)
3 (Nur Khan)

If this is true, then I'd say our AD performed exceptionally and Indians actually have very little to show for the many missiles expended.

But why isn't there more debris and why didn't we document and reveal this.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

If this is true, then I'd say our AD performed exceptionally and Indians actually have very little to show for the many missiles expended.

But why isn't there more debris and why didn't we document and reveal this.

and why didnt we responded proportionally? that is too much

 

[hussain0216]

Fatah 3 is already in service.
Fatah 4 has more likely been inducted whilst it hasn't been made Public.(assumption on my part) And the reason for that is, Abdali was testing with statement training launch.

Will their be anything beyond Fatah 4 like a Fatah 5 or 6 with a 1000km or 1500 range?????


Same question for the SMASH, I forgot the range but I think it was about 300km, any plans to make that about 700km?

 

[Abdul q]

Only artillery. They got surprised from our sudden and massive response, which can be attested from the fact that they tried inducting additional M777s after the ceasefire so that they might have some fighting chance against our SH15s.

Idk why we are using or advocating SH15s as some high level thing.. it clearly has huge recoil issue… in my opinion SH15s is not good for accurate target accusation

 

[falcon34]

Will their be anything beyond Fatah 4 like a Fatah 5 or 6 with a 1000km or 1500 range?????


Same question for the SMASH, I forgot the range but I think it was about 300km, any plans to make that about 700km?

Anything beyond 700km will definitely have to be a hypersonic solution to make it survivable. I think we could see adoption of P282 HGV on F series of boosters.
As far far smash is concerned it's for zulfiqar class frigates. It will end here I guess.
P282 is for Jinnah and type 54 frigates.

 

[falcon34]

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What are we missing something happened and we don't know it
@Panzerkiel kindly spill the beans on this, it's getting unbearable now

 

[Panzerkiel]

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What are we missing something happened and we don't know it
@Panzerkiel kindly spill the beans on this, it's getting unbearable now

Still too early dear... You'll have to wait... Things are still hot.

 

[White Privilege]

As I mentioned before, another strike wave from our side was sent in as a response for these as well.

but we haven't heard about it so why was it not much publicized??

 

[Reichmarshal]

Except India only fired 15 brahmos..total. All targets combined. 12 per target means 100 plus! I wonder if one can split in 7?

bindia fired 10-12 brahmos per target !
99% failed to hit the target....brahmos proved to be a huge failure

 

[falcon34]

Still too early dear... You'll have to wait... Things are still hot.

Well I guess it's next year than
I'll ask the same question on 6/26/2026.
No excuses than Sir.
You'll have to break it down in complete detail deal especially the second wave.

 

[Baibers_1260]

Since India's " 100% interceptions" of Pakistani missiles on May 9th-10th 2025, then should it be assumed that Pakistan's nuclear deterrence is no longer valid?
Given the "successful interceptions" by India's layered anti-ballistic, anti-cruise missile, defenses, does this render all of Pakistan's missile inventory obsolete?

• What are Pakistan's options in delivery of their nuclear weapons?
• What is the point of having nuclear weapons if they can't be delivered?

@Panzerkiel

 

[hussain0216]

Since India's " 100% interceptions" of Pakistani missiles on May 9th-10th 2025, then should it be assumed that Pakistan's nuclear deterrence is no longer valid?
Given the "successful interceptions" by India's layered anti-ballistic, anti-cruise missile, defenses, does this render all of Pakistan's missile inventory obsolete?

• What are Pakistan's options in delivery of their nuclear weapons?
• What is the point of having nuclear weapons if they can't be delivered?

@Panzerkiel

Buddy, what are you talking about