The Strongest militaries in the Muslim world

[Ali_Baba]

Turkey, Egypt and KSA have stronger militaries than Pakistan.
All three of those countries can fight a conventional war based off of the western playbook to the letter. Pakistan can't do that.

Sorry, but simply having "weapons" is not a sign of military strength. Having a fully trained military that can take full advantage of the capabilities of those weapons, operating under a war fighting doctrine that maximises every resource and asset is a sign of a "strong military".

KSA is not a strong military at any level. Turkey is, and "maybe" Egypt is a strong military but no way are they stronger than Pakistan!

 

[Abid123]

Turkey, Egypt and KSA have stronger militaries than Pakistan.
All three of those countries can fight a conventional war based off of the western playbook to the letter. Pakistan can't do that.

And the only person who liked your comment is a jeet. @harpy1

 

[Abid123]

Sorry, but simply having "weapons" is not a sign of military strength. Having a fully trained military that can take full advantage of the capabilities of those weapons, operating under a war fighting doctrine that maximises every resource and asset is a sign of a "strong military".

KSA is not a strong military at any level. Turkey is, and maybe Egypt aswell.

The only ones that can fight are Turkey, Pakistan, Iran and Algeria.

 

[Ali_Baba]

does Pakistan have any successes against a white military?

Soviets? They were/are white ?

 

[harpy1]

And the only person who liked your comment is a jeet. @harpy1

Saudi have USA NATO personal 24/7 on site for decades
Turkey is NATO western trained
And regional super power
Heck they are building their own fifth generation fighters frigates and corvettes and drone super power

 

[Ali_Baba]

I can´t say i disagree but @Foinikas what do you say

There is no Syrian military force left. Nothing. Israel destroyed everything. A "paramilitary police force" at best is where Syria is right now.

Syria will never be allowed to reconstitute her armed forces ever now, it will always get bombed by Israel if it tries. It is a shame that the Syrian Armed forces did not preserve their military assets during the "transition" of leadership and allowed it all to be destroyed.

 

[Assyrian209]

There is no syrian military force left. Nothing. Israel destroyed everything. A "paramilitary police force" at best is where Syria is right now.

Syria will never be allowed to reconstitute her armed forces ever now, it will always get bombed by Israel if it tries. It is a shame that the Syrian Armed forces did not preserve their military assets during the "transition" of leadership and allowed it all to be destroyed.

Choke on a phat haam haam my friend.. First of all Syria had no airforce period nor air defense systems if you call these s-300 defense you crazy. Syria was like Iran I mean The SAA.

We will definitely fly Kaan fighters in less then 5 years and have Hisar air defensive systems.

Syria lost nothing of value S-300 are redudannt trash and fighter jets like MIG that was completely obsolote from the 50s. The Syrian rebels have better drone game then the SAA and better equipped when they stormed Damascus.

Israel and Syria will probably sign a peace agreement pushing them out of the buffer zone. There is only 2 solution we could either engage in an eternal war or sign the treaty with each other there is nothing else on the table. The treaty is next up.

We will rebuild our military to higher standard and we are already doing it and happening

 

[Ali_Baba]

Choke on a phat dick my friend..

This comment is inappropriate - but since you are new to the forum, I will not report it.

First of all Syria had no airforce period nor air defense systems if you call these s-300 defense you crazy. Syria was like Iran I mean The SAA.

Israel did not have the freedom of operation over Syria than it has now. What ever you think of what Syria had, Israel felt it was of military value so much that they destroyed it when given the chance. The equipment was not destroyed because it was ineffective to the extent that you say it was, it was destroyed because it was not manned at all. Could C130s, Refuellers have operated freely over Syria had Syria maintained its air defences. The answer is no.

We will definitely fly Kaan fighters in less then 5 years and have Hisar air defensive systems.

Highly unlikely given that right now, there are no fast jets pilots in Syria right now. Any that were fast jet pilots have all lost their flight ratings of jets already and will age out before given the opportunity to fly new platforms. If there are Kaans operating over Syria, it will be staffed/manned by Syrian pilots. It takes more than 5 years to take a graduate to a fast jet pilot that can operationally man a fast jet platform and be effective in that role.

Syria lost nothing of value S-300 are redudannt trash and fighter jets like MIG that was completely obsolote from the 50s. The Syrian rebels have better drone game then the SAA and better equipped when they stormed the Damascus.

The Syrian Airforce decided to abandon their posts go home. In doing so, everything was destroyed. Yes, the equipment was old, but still far better than what they have now. Many militaries still operate the same equipment that Syria had before it was all destroyed. Not many people on this forum will agree with your assessments of the state of the military or their capability before it was destroyed.

Israel and Syria will probably sign a peace agreement pushing them out of the buffer zone. There is only 2 solution we could either engage in an eternal war or sign the treaty with each other there is nothing else on the table. The treaty is next up

Yes, Syria will sign onto the Abraham accords, but it wont get the Golan Heights back from doing that. Syria will have to give up that land permanently.

 

[LeGenD]

In this thread we give our ranking of the strongest Muslim militaries. My top 10.

1. Pakistan - By far. Not even contested.

2. Turkey

3. Iran

4. Egypt

5. KSA

6. Indonesia

7. Azerbaijan

8. UAE

9. Yemen

10. Malaysia

Perhaps.

Algeria have also created a capable military force by now. Algeria also have good leadership. They avoided Libyan miscalculations.

The GCC packs a punch as a collective with advanced Air Force and by pooling resources.

There was a time when Iraq was at the top but lost much of its power in destructive wars. Now a mere shadow of its former self. Syria also lost much of its power in war.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

These comparison stuff is BS. For example Chatgpt can't find the actual number of Turkish military because it has not been publicized for years. We know Army has 500k, total estimate would be 800k. Reserve is a different issue, Turkey doesn't have Reserve system like US or Germany. Sİnce there is conscription in Turkey. Every male over 20 years old have military experience. In 2-3 months, can muster 2 million soldiers, in a year can muster 9 million troops.

There are to many data to take into consideration this ranking stuff has no meaning at all.

I would offer the people who do this for a living have a far better grasp on rankings than a bunch of randos on the Internet just spewing opinions with little to back it up.

 

[battalion25]

This comment is inappropriate - but since you are new to the forum, I will not report it.


Israel did not have the freedom of operation over Syria than it has now. What ever you think of what Syria had, Israel felt it was of military value so much that they destroyed it when given the chance. The equipment was not destroyed because it was ineffective to the extent that you say it was, it was destroyed because it was not manned at all. Could C130s, Refuellers have operated freely over Syria had Syria maintained its air defences. The answer is no.



Highly unlikely given that right now, there are no fast jets pilots in Syria right now. Any that were fast jet pilots have all lost their flight ratings of jets already and will age out before given the opportunity to fly new platforms. If there are Kaans operating over Syria, it will be staffed/manned by Syrian pilots. It takes more than 5 years to take a graduate to a fast jet pilot that can operationally man a fast jet platform and be effective in that role.



The Syrian Airforce decided to abandon their posts go home. In doing so, everything was destroyed. Yes, the equipment was old, but still far better than what they have now. Many militaries still operate the same equipment that Syria had before it was all destroyed. Not many people on this forum will agree with your assessments of the state of the military or their capability before it was destroyed.



Yes, Syria will sign onto the Abraham accords, but it wont get the Golan Heights back from doing that. Syria will have to give up that land permanently.

Everything will return to them in time, I mean including Golan hence it is irrelevant for the time being.

As for the S-300 and Migs being destroyed it was actully a blessing in disquess both were completely obsolute anyone had complete acess over Syrian airspace either it was Amercan F-15s, F16s and F22s, Turkish F-16s, Jordan F-15 and F16s and Israeli F-35 and F-16s. It was open naked airspace remember that time Turkey just entered their airspace and downed a bunch of obsolote Migs and Su 24s from the 50s and 60s.

There was no air defensive at all over Syria in Assad´s time he had junk S-300

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Nukes are pointless imo
Didn't stop India bombing Pakistan bases
Or Ukraine fighting Russia war for years

Nukes will be last resort weapons of desperation. Everyone knows that.

 

[Abid123]

Didn't stop India bombing Pakistan bases

Did not stop 26/11/2008 since you goverment accused Pakistan for it.

 

[Sinan]

I would offer the people who do this for a living have a far better grasp on rankings than a bunch of randos on the Internet just spewing opinions with little to back it up.

Pakistan Zindabad !!!!!!!

 

[Sultan Baybars]

Check this one

List of wars involving Indonesia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Indonesians couldnt even beat the tiny Netherlands.

The Ottomans tried many times to support the Atjeh rebellion with weapons but the Ottoman Navy was not powerfull enough in the Indian Ocean because of the Portugese.