Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[mangekyo]

Is this so-called ceasefire just a rush to see who re-arms first? Israel to replenish air defense and missiles, or Iran to build the bomb?

 

[Nuffle]

Which would mean a higher cost... for deployment of 3000km+ range IRBMs that can be fired from silos or TELs near the Afghan or Pak borders....

But it would increase the options and variety of attack assets, taking advantage of its mountainous geography to hide the IRBM force.


Look at this for example:

this might be video from first use of Qasem Basir missile with EO sensor!

@ShapurII

This missile may have the capacity to hit mobile targets, which could be part of Iran's anti-ship ASBM, but Iran needs to increase its ISTAR capacity to designate targets in real time, which is an asymmetry in the face of American naval power.

If it is an anti-ship IRBM, it would be even better for Iran, as it would provide an anti-access and maritime denial area at greater ranges and prevent US Navy aggression.

 

[mangekyo]

Oil is already known fact, but involvement in direct destructive operation against Iran, if it's true, must be adequate addressed by Iran...they went too far...

There have been many eyewitnesses claiming drones came from Azerbaijan. It shouldn’t be ignored

 

[ShapurII]

Is this so-called ceasefire just a rush to see who re-arms first? Israel to replenish air defense and missiles, or Iran to build the bomb?

It's so sad that his attempts to contact the authorities are being ignored.
He totally deserves to hear a f*ck you over the telephone.

 

[Meengla]

Neither China nor Russia is thinking about anything other than appeasing the United States; they will never sell useful weapons to Iran.
North Korea was in the same position. However, without making excuses, they have developed everything themselves, from nuclear weapons to giant drones and large submarines. At the same time, they have placed all their bases underground. Despite being a poor, small country with no resources and a population of only 20 million.
Iran lacks only the resolve of its leaders.
That is the root cause of all its weakness.

North Korea and the Houthi controlled Yemen are the only truly independent countries of the world.

 

[Nuffle]

Obviously, Hamas, Hezbollah, prayer to Allah (!), faith and firing 10-30 missiles per day while the enemy is targeting your launchers are the ultimate deterrence according to the Grand Ayatollah.
Nukes and jet fighters are useless. And the US has lost every war they have fought since WWII!

Israel just proved otherwise.

 

[Nuffle]

What could we do last month when subjected to a similar attack from India? And desperately tried retaliation with Chinese weaponry?

How did that go for us?

Do you use Chinese equipment? Which ones? As far as I know, only MANPADS.

 

[ShapurII]

This missile may have the capacity to hit mobile targets, which could be part of Iran's anti-ship ASBM, but Iran needs to increase its ISTAR capacity to designate targets in real time, which is an asymmetry in the face of American naval power.

If it is an anti-ship IRBM, it would be even better for Iran, as it would provide an anti-access and maritime denial area at greater ranges and prevent US Navy aggression.

Have you checked the Persian Gulf missile? It was Iran's first ASBM.

Persian Gulf (missile) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[ShapurII]

Israel just proved otherwise.

No, you are wrong! The Grand Ayatollah has finally sent us a video message from some bunker where he claims that the Zionist regime was crushed, thanks to God.
Who needs nukes or jet fighters when you can crush the Zionist regime with just 550 missiles? And defeat the US with just 6 missiles on an empty Al-Udeid in Qatar?

 

[Nuffle]

Have you checked the Persian Gulf missile? It was Iran's first ASBM.

Persian Gulf (missile) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yes, but its range is 300 km. Iran needs to extend its anti-access range to the range of its MRBM missiles and then move on to IRBMs, which would be the only asymmetric strategy capable of countering a US Navy threat, but even then it would depend on a broad and comprehensive ISTAR capability to designate targets.

Better than that, the only option would be modern conventional and nuclear submarines, as well as a fleet of destroyers and cruisers that Iran clearly could not afford or acquire unless it counted on the DPRK, which is only now building its Navy.

 

[Meengla]

Obviously, Hamas, Hezbollah, prayer to Allah (!), faith and firing 10-30 missiles per day while the enemy is targeting your launchers are the ultimate deterrence according to the Grand Ayatollah.
Nukes and jet fighters are useless. And the US has lost every war they have fought since WWII!

Well, the proxies and the threat of the Iranian missiles were proven deterrence for decades.
I believe Iran has prevailed in the recent conflict but Iran wouldn't have suffered so many losses and humiliation had the proxies existed as potently AND the spies/saboteurs not wrecked Iran from within.

 

[mangekyo]

Let’s not pretend Iran isn’t in deep shit. But we have the strength and determination to get out of this mess, if only the leadership doesn’t get in our way, but what are the odds they won’t?

 

[Lulldapull]

Neither China nor Russia is thinking about anything other than appeasing the United States; they will never sell useful weapons to Iran.
North Korea was in the same position. However, without making excuses, they have developed everything themselves, from nuclear weapons to giant drones and large submarines. At the same time, they have placed all their bases underground. Despite being a poor, small country with no resources and a population of only 20 million.
Iran lacks only the resolve of its leaders.
That is the root cause of all its weakness.

Iran doesn’t want anything from neither of the two no? Evidently…….or it would have bought it no?

And as previously explained the DPRK missiles flopped in Ukraine. We know this.

 

[ShapurII]

Well, the proxies and the threat of the Iranian missiles were proven deterrence for decades.
I believe Iran has prevailed in the recent conflict but Iran wouldn't have suffered so many losses and humiliation had the proxies existed as potently AND the spies/saboteurs not wrecked Iran from within.

Iran's deterrence was lost in 2020 when Trump assassinated Gen. Soleimani and all we did was a symbolic, coordinated response.
Proxies like Hamas or Hezbollah never intended to fight for us anyway.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Israel just proved otherwise.

I don't think you understood his sarcasm