Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[mangekyo]

Oh yes. They did alot of damage their rockets and US even send a special envoy to stop the war and Hez accepted which was the worst decision they have ever taken. This was Hezbollah last imho and they were doing significiant damage but accepted premature ceasefire

I don’t think they did. Damages to buildings were mostly cosmetic

 

[ShapurII]

So Iran was a one man show? You believe that?

Yes. In fact, I do remember quite well, very vividly, that Hasan Nasrallah was still alive and he was in Tehran. It was during the administration of the Bush Junior administration or the first years of the Obama administration and the threat of war with Iran was very serious. They constantly said "all options are on the table".
They asked him "What would you do if the US attacked Iran"? And he replied: We would pray for Iran.

 

[Meengla]

Iran's deterrence was lost in 2020 when Trump assassinated Gen. Soleimani and all we did was a symbolic, coordinated response.
Proxies like Hamas or Hezbollah never intended to fight for us anyway.

Deterrence is not totally lost but damaged after Gazans, Hezbollah, and Syria greatly damaged or lost. Israelis finally launched a front attack after decades of very hostile posturing between the two countries. That is not a coincidence!
As for the America factor: No country without potent payback is willing to have a frontal war with America. Only countries like Russia and China dare confront America directly. Iranian leadership knows that.
Anyway, Iran needs to massively rebuild its missiles, flush out the spies/saboteurs, build its air defense system and maybe stay out of the Palestinian Cause going forward. Look eastward.

 

[Meengla]

So Iranian embassy in delhi has thanked India after everything? After they showed open support to Israel? After indians were caught spying for mossad in Iran? Iran should have learned this time but guess they have not.

Incredible, ain't it!!

 

[Assyrian209]

I don’t think they did. Damages to buildings were mostly cosmetic

Oh yes they did significiant damage I was watching it live everyday

 

[tsunset]

So Iranian embassy in delhi has thanked India after everything? After they showed open support to Israel? After indians were caught spying for mossad in Iran? Iran should have learned this time but guess they have not.

This is the embassy, just warm words meaning nothing

The embassy would never come out and say "the useless zionists of India that smells bad are useless and against Iran"

In short these warm words means nothing of Iran's foreign policy

 

[Brutal.]

Incredible, ain't it!!

Whats their obsession with India? Indians literally showed no support for Iran except some muslims whose opinion doesn't matter in india. Its actually weird.

 

[Assyrian209]

This is the embassy, just warm words meaning nothing

The embassy would never come out and say "the useless zionists of India that smells bad are useless and against Iran"

In short these warm words means nothing of Iran's foreign policy

True.. But everyone knows that Iranians look different at Indians today regardless of the formality words

 

[Brutal.]

This is the embassy, just warm words meaning nothing

The embassy would never come out and say "the useless zionists of India that smells bad are useless and against Iran"

In short these warm words means nothing of Iran's foreign policy

I understand but there was no need for warm words in my opinion. The embassy could have just stayed quiet the way india did not use any warm words in support of Iran.

 

[Assyrian209]

Deterrence is not totally lost but damaged after Gazans, Hezbollah, and Syria greatly damaged or lost. Israelis finally launched a front attack after decades of very hostile posturing between the two countries. That is not a coincidence!
As for the America factor: No country without potent payback is willing to have a frontal war with America. Only countries like Russia and China dare confront America directly. Iranian leadership knows that.
Anyway, Iran needs to massively rebuild its missiles, flush out the spies/saboteurs, build its air defense system and maybe stay out of the Palestinian Cause going forward. Look eastward.

Gazans aren´t going anywhere that is for sure as for Hezbollah they may get disarmed by the Lebanese army and reduced to political entity.

I think the current leader of Hezbollah is very sus he needs to be killed immediately and replace him with another type of Nasrallah if Hezbollah was to survive. Nasrallah and the other one said we will never stop war until Gaza but this guy betrayed Hamas, Iran and everyone

 

[Meengla]

Alot of Pakistanis are full of speculators and don´t understand how this world works..
Every state nation is free... even areas held by rebels and secessionists as long as they hold it they are free... But every other day in here you see pakistanis writting some low IQ and barking like donkey´s.

I don't know how your post is responding to my own post?? When I said only the Houthi controlled Yemen and North Korea are the truly independent nations in the world, I meant they don't care about their 'image', or sanctions, or for 'bending knee' for trade/commerce, diplomacy. etc etc. They say and do as it pleases. The breathe verbal fire on the American Superpower.
They are dirt poor. Life not good there. But they ARE independent and most countries can be the same IF/WHEN they decide pay the price to be so.

 

[Assyrian209]

I don't know how your post is responding to my own post?? When I said only the Houthi controlled Yemen and North Korea are the truly independent nations in the world, I meant they don't care about their 'image', or sanctions, or for 'bending knee' for trade/commerce, diplomacy. etc etc. They say and do as it pleases. The breathe verbal fire on the American Superpower.
They are dirt poor. Life not good there. But they ARE independent and most countries can be the same IF/WHEN they decide pay the price to be so.

Every single territory is free that is the truth but everyone does things to his benefits and what is best.

Example many are buying time not only China and even India.

Alot of people are impatient they wanna see the US challenged and fought but that is not how things work.. THERE WILL BE NO WORLD WAR WHILE TRADE IS ONGOING..

Meaning once trade stops war starts next day? And trade can´t stop without the economy falling hence nobody will have anything to lose ON THAT DAY and that is when you will get your WW3 which alot of people have been impatient for and believe me things will drastically change in the world after A potential WW3

 

[Meengla]

I understand but there was no need for warm words in my opinion. The embassy could have just stayed quiet the way india did not use any warm words in support of Iran.

India was actually visibly on the Israeli side. It was not even really neutral when you look at the Indian official posture. Even the so-called American 'stooges' Arab countries roundly condemned the Israeli attack on Iran. Amazing for the Iranian embassy in India to come up with such strong warm words in light of that. I know the jobs of the embassies is to foster ties, primarily for commercial reasons, but this was a little too much. Incredible!!

 

[lonelycaptain]

Both China and Russia could only protect contries that are directly border them.
It is very hard for China and Russia to support Iran. Only Pakistan. I think Pakistan already has security pact with Saudi Arabia ?
A good place to start is good relation with KSA and Pakistan, that's the direction Raisi was taken before his death

 

[vmro]

Most of these so-called Hezbollah's "missiles" are in fact unguided rockets with really small warheads. Nothing game changing, to be honest.

Sure. A missile like Khorramshahr with a 1,800 kg warhead is a monster. But we'll need thousands of such impacts to force Israel to surrender.

You need few days more like previous days of operation and just a bit more missiles, and only crazy, literally crazy from blast cost-effects, will stay in Israel...Haifa, Tell Aviv and part of the south, and they are ruined state..