Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[mangekyo]

I hate to say it, but I think the Palestinian cause is dead. The entire Arab world—except Yemen—seems ready to abandon the Palestinians and embrace Israel. Letting Syria fall into salafist hands was the last straw. And no matter what Iran does, it always gets blamed. There’s no good endgame here for Iran.

Give Hamas diplomatic support, fund them, arm them, train them, be like a father to them and watch them turn on you and kill you for Al-Nusra.

Help Syrians fight ISIS and they accuse you of ruining their revolution and watch them normalize with Israel.

When ISIS was taking over Iraq and Iran stepped in to help, they said: “Stop using Iraqis to fight your wars.”

Support Hezbollah for decades, but hold back in one war, and they’ll claim Iran was never really with them and abandon Iran.

Before the Israel war, they complained: “Why doesn’t Israel kill more Iranian civilians? Iran must be with Israel.”

During the surprise attacks, they mocked: “Iran is a paper tiger. Why even try fighting Israel if they’re so weak?”

When Iran hit back hard and started punishing Israel, they switched to: “If Iran is this strong, why didn’t they attack Israel before?

And when news of a ceasefire emerged, they said: “Iran excluded Gaza. Iran never cared.”

You just can’t win with these people. Let them do whatever they want. You can’t change who they are.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Beautiful tel aviv ✡

 

[Assyrian209]

Both China and Russia could only protect contries that are directly border them.
It is very hard for China and Russia to support Iran. Only Pakistan. I think Pakistan already has security pact with Saudi Arabia ?
A good place to start is good relation with KSA and Pakistan, that's the direction Raisi was taken before his death

I think it will be the other way around and call me crazy. China will be sitting and sitting waiting waiting. The US will be the first one to pull the trigger once the timing is right. The US will come after they have defeated US with a massive alliance against China this will be the decider of WW3. Pakistan will have 2 options watch China taken down or intervene.

In order to avoid that situation China needs to become proactive meaning taking India out with Pakistan before all that meaning China launches the first punch and eliminates India this will make the US rethink launching the first punch.

 

[Assyrian209]

I hate to say it, but I think the Palestinian cause is dead. The entire Arab world—except Yemen—seems ready to abandon the Palestinians and embrace Israel. Letting Syria fall into salafist hands was the last straw. And no matter what Iran does, it always gets blamed. There’s no good endgame here for Iran.

Salafist taking over Syria is for the better besides the Palestinian cause will never die and besides you haven´t even fought a war just strikes and you act like you did. You are weak and that is the truth and the best case scenario for you is too just sit down and wait. You lack a quality that is called being steadfastness and stubborn. The So-called war on terror was defeated by few ragtags why? Because they were just steadfastness and had the stomach for it or to put it short they just didn´t give a fuk.

Let the clock do the work wait for another 20-25 years.. Technology will shift so drastically and everything will change.

 

[Meengla]

Alot of people are impatient they wanna see the US challenged

Most Pakistanis who call for openly challenging the Americans are the expats living in the comfort of Western countries. Google is their friend if they did a little bit to understand Pakistan's trade numbers. They may also know that Pakistan, a nation of 240 million people with low human and natural resources, was on the verge of a financial 'default' barely two years ago. They may know how a powerful, large, Western-backed country, since Modi came to power a decade ago, is physically and verbally threatening Pakistan. We saw what happened between India and Pakistan in May 2025.
In short, Pakistan never had the luxury of putting its guard down for one day since Pakistan's foundation in 1947. No country in the world has faced such dire threats right next to it for so long as Pakistan has been facing. But on multiple occasions Pakistan challenged America when Pakistan had to.

 

[mangekyo]

Salafist taking over Syria is for the better besides the Palestinian cause will never die and besides you haven´t even fought a war just strikes and you act like you did. You are weak and that is the truth and the best case scenario for you is too just sit down.

Let the clock do the work wait for another 20-25 years.. Technology will shift so drastically

Please, if Iran were to announce they step away from the Palestinian cause, Israel wil take over all of Palestine and Lebanon and start expelling the entire population the same day.

Arabs suffer from the worst case of Stockholm syndrome in the entire history of mankind.

Look at ex French colonies like Lebanon and Algerie, the French literally gang raped them and now they compete on who is more French.

Turkey gassed Syrians and they are running to Turkey.

Do I even need to say what Israel has done to Arabs? Look how desperate they are to engage with them.

Help and you will get hated, kill them and they will love you.

 

[Assyrian209]

Please, if Iran were to announce they step away from the Palestinian cause, Israel wil take over all of Palestine and Lebanon and start expelling the entire population the same day.

Arabs suffer from the worst case of Stockholm syndrome in the entire history of mankind.

Look at ex French colonies like Lebanon and Algerie, the French literally gang raped them and now they compete on who is more French.

Turkey gassed Syrians and they are running to Turkey.

Do I even need to say what Israel has done to Arabs? Look how desperate they are to engage with them.

Help and you will get hated, kill them and they will love you.

Lol you did actully nothing you just worsed stuff.. Besides you were the one who got attacked.

Best thing you can do is to sit down.. You aren´t liberating Palestine and never were gonna be. This is not the time for war you know that as well then why tell Hamas to launch the war..

Everything has it´s time and place

 

[Garcia Sea]

Palestinians fiercely hated the Syrian government, which had supported them for decades, solely because it was Alawite.
They enthusiastically backed Al-Qaeda and HTS, fervently calling for the destruction of their enemy, Iran.
Now, HTS, in return, has allied with Israel to crush the Palestinians. Could there be a clearer example of reaping what one sows?
Honestly, I can only say that Sunni Islam has a profound moral problem. While it is indeed unfair for Palestinians alone to bear the burden of this guilt, it does not mean they are innocent.

 

[Arash]

Is this so-called ceasefire just a rush to see who re-arms first? Israel to replenish air defense and missiles, or Iran to build the bomb?

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Iran to do God knows what...
Israel to replenish its interceptors stock for sure before the next attack

 

[vmro]

I hate to say it, but I think the Palestinian cause is dead. The entire Arab world—except Yemen—seems ready to abandon the Palestinians and embrace Israel. Letting Syria fall into salafist hands was the last straw. And no matter what Iran does, it always gets blamed. There’s no good endgame here for Iran.

Give Hamas diplomatic support, fund them, arm them, train them, be like a father to them and watch them turn on you and kill you for Al-Nusra.

Help Syrians fight ISIS and they accuse you of ruining their revolution and watch them normalize with Israel.

When ISIS was taking over Iraq and Iran stepped in to help, they said: “Stop using Iraqis to fight your wars.”

Support Hezbollah for decades, but hold back in one war, and they’ll claim Iran was never really with them and abandon Iran.

Before the Israel war, they complained: “Why doesn’t Israel kill more Iranian civilians? Iran must be with Israel.”

During the surprise attacks, they mocked: “Iran is a paper tiger. Why even try fighting Israel if they’re so weak?”

When Iran hit back hard and started punishing Israel, they switched to: “If Iran is this strong, why didn’t they attack Israel before?

And when news of a ceasefire emerged, they said: “Iran excluded Gaza. Iran never cared.”

You just can’t win with these people. Let them do whatever they want. You can’t change who they are.

Accept the fact that corridor to Beirut is no longer available, accept the Yemenis (Houthis) as special military and geopolitical partners, other things will come, they are already happening behind the scenes...and that's good also BTW...

Or declare war to Turkish, Arabs, Nato and all in between and retake the corridor with force...but Russians are unable to support you in that case...

 

[mangekyo]

Lol you did actully nothing you just worsed stuff.. Besides you were the one who got attacked.

Best thing you can do is to sit down.. You aren´t liberating Palestine and never were gonna be. This is not the time for war you know that as well then why tell Hamas to launch the war..

Everything has it´s time and place

You just helped prove my point. And we didn’t tell HAMAS to attack. October 7 was HAMAS’s Samson option

 

[ShapurII]

Lol you did actully nothing you just worsed stuff.. Besides you were the one who got attacked.

Best thing you can do is to sit down.. You aren´t liberating Palestine and never were gonna be. This is not the time for war you know that as well then why tell Hamas to launch the war..

Everything has it´s time and place

We never told Hamas to launch the war. Even Israeli and American intel. community agree on this and publicly stated it in the beginning of the war.

I have long speculated that in fact, October 7th was a plan by Ikhwan Al-Muslimin (Qatar and Turkey) to drag Iran into a war that would eventually lead to the collapse of our so-called "Axis of Resistance" in the region, and it worked.

 

[Assyrian209]

You just helped prove my point. And we didn’t tell HAMAS to attack. October 7 was HAMAS’s Samson option

You did bro to disrupt a US-Saudi deal called the deal of the century.. It was a massive miscalculation on Hamas part not you hence you could have washed you hands of it but things just turned sour all over I guess.

But this is a known fact even admitted by Hamas heads

 

[OldTwilight]

You just helped prove my point. And we didn’t tell HAMAS to attack. October 7 was HAMAS’s Samson option

HAMAS is always Turkey/Qatar ally not Iran ...

 

[StrategicBear]

I think it will be the other way around and call me crazy. China will be sitting and sitting waiting waiting. The US will be the first one to pull the trigger once the timing is right. The US will come after they have defeated US with a massive alliance against China this will be the decider of WW3. Pakistan will have 2 options watch China taken down or intervene.

In order to avoid that situation China needs to become proactive meaning taking India out with Pakistan before all that meaning China launches the first punch and eliminates India this will make the US rethink launching the first punch.

LOL you still think of analyzing China's military power from your perspective as a citizen of a Non-Superpower country.

China can easily defeat the US naval surface forces already now with their Hypersonic IRBMs which can destroy any USN Aircraft Carrier easily only. They have hundreds of those Hypersonic Glide Vehicles alone, which has Global Strike capability backed by the Beidou system.

The only problem is the dozens of US submarines that can fire Tomahawks and Stealth Bombers, and even that China has Counter-Stealth Radars and countless CIWS and a very dense AD network to minimize the damage.

Chinese Industrial Capability is 1000X times Iran's, so you have no idea what China is capable of.

China doesn't want to challenge US now because it wants to be sure it can dominate and overwhelm US in all aspects of tech before they are comfortable in taking action, and they believe time is on their side as they restrict Rare Earths to USA limiting their ability to manufacture military products.