Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[KingQamaR]

This is just a pause:

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Colonel is right on the pause. The regime change plans for Iran have not changed at all.

 

[Watandar]

Every NATO installation in Türkiye has received government approval only if it was advantageous for Türkiye itself.
That radar system located in Eastern Türkiye provides data for our military.
If Türkiye can prevent the US from using its land and airspace to halt their invasion of Iraq, it clearly indicates that our NATO membership is based on our own choice.

In contrast to Iran, Türkiye has opposed the US and NATO's invasion and devastation of Iraq.
Tehran, however, assisted the Americans.
You also destroyed Syria by denying the people the opportunity to choose their leader freely because the outcome would have not been to your liking.

Currently, the Western world utilizes Iraqi and Syrian airspace to attack and kill your own citizens.
What goes around, comes around, brother.

Ultimately, you brought this upon yourself.
The unfortunate part is that you are unable to recognize this which means you are bound to repeat your mistakes.

Oh please, the US invaded Iraq without asking anybody permission and then faced a harsh insurgency which was aided by Iran. Turkey has been as big of a meddler in Iraq as Iran had and equally involved in the Syrian civil war. You approve of the outcome because Jolani is your agent and it is Turkey that occupies Iraqi and Syrian territory, not Iran.

Turkey is also involved in proxy wars in Somalia, Libya and elsewhere. Your accusations like the GCC and West at Iran are an example of pot calling kettle black.

Iran main "crimes" are aiding the Palestinians.

 

[Persian Gulf]

@tsunset @Persian Gulf @shapurzolaktaf @OldTwilight @mangekyo
Guys, how likely do you think it is for Israel to restart her strikes on Iran during Tasu'a and Ashura?

I think it is unlikely

 

[Persian Gulf]

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Israel murdered this 3 year old Iranian girl and her mother

 

[SABRE]

Respectfully, can you please do some research about Iran's capabilities before writing a long comment about such trivialities?

Iran already has a working implosion device that is comparable to Mark IV/Mark V. We don't need to go after the gun-type but we can certainly do that extremely easily. Read about the Emad/Amad Project first. I don't have time to educate you on this project but I may do so if you ask nicely and do some research on your own instead of writing long comments like that.
Iran has had nuclear-capable missiles since Shahab-3. Khorramshahr can lift 1,800 kg to 2,000 km. We have already mastered thermal shielding and MIRV technology in Khorramshahr and Sejjil. The delivery mechanism has been there for more than 2 decades.

The only question at this point is if Iran has a secret uranium metal conversion site. This is possibly the golden question now. The rest of it is not that difficult to predict. We have mastered laser isotope separation and it is easy to do LIS covertly at some random civilian looking building.
The tuning for 90% might be iffy, but if it fails and if reports are true, we already have enough centrifuges to convert 60% to enough HEU for 10-15 bombs. And we have two sites +200m underground to continue enrichment.

My friend. I have been a researcher through out my adult life. There is no credible evidence of Iran having an implosion device, or for that matter gun-barrel. There are two types of data available on AMAD project. One is by IAEA, which says all things are "iffy" and the other is Netanyahu's propaganda. & since Iran's entire nuclear programme is based on uranium enrichment, for which gun-barrel not merely relatively easier but efficient mean also, I do not see why Iran would ever develop implosion device, unless it has plans to transition to plutonium route. But even in that case, without the ability to produce a plutonium core developing implosive device is just about meaningless.

All ballistic missiles are theoretically nuclear capable. That's not a news. Trick is developing nuclear warhead that works.

 

[Eşbah]

Armenia is Iran's strategic ally and we will support Armenia against Turkey and Republic of Azerbaijan any time of the day with pleasure.
The rest of your posts does not contain anything of substantial value to be addressed in my opinion. I have already explained why things are the way they are. So, respectfully, this discussion is over.

The Armenians want us Turks as partners, not you Iranians!

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It is shocking how distorted the Iranian perspective is.

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Your cherished ancient Armenians are pleading in Europe for the EU to offer Türkiye something significant in exchange for reopening the Turkish-Armenian border. While you continue to maintain hostility towards Azerbaijan and Türkiye for the benefit of Eriwan, your neighbors are seeking a nearly complete economic and geopolitical integration with Ankara.

The harsh reality is that your hybris in assessing foreign and regional relations/developments is typical rather than unusual in Iran. If Ummah/Muslim identitiy should not influence one's choices; if only detached, harsh, cold rationality is the standard for making policy decisions, then why shouldn't Türkiye and Pakistan take advantage of this situation and carve significant portions out of Iran? Because your postings and statements are giving us the vibes that you would do it if the roles were reversed.

You talk about the region and your neighbors as if Iran is somehow this infallible nation that should reign over everybody in region.

If this war isn't a reality check then nobody can help you.

 

[SABRE]

frankly speaking, I do not think they have such capacity or capability, and there isn't enough time left. Wars/conflicts are already started(with some pauses in between), and it would be near impossible to do it even if they get 20 yrs peacetime bcaz they want those sanctions lifted first.
With the wars heating up, the world does not have that much time. IF Iran had that capablity, it would've done the test already and then would've flexed it muscles around it too. I personally think their enriched uranium isn't even in the country anymore. Besides, its true that other nations do not want them to have it.

They also have bigger issues to solve, such as a cleanup of their country from all the moles, sleeper cells, indian cia/mosad agents, and governance and actual moving forward policy. Right now its all up in the air with utmost confusion amongst their population.......nothing is actually clear. When there is confusion, it usually does not end well. Just being a "former persian empire" will not win them anything, unfortunately. They should've done all these things YESTERDAY and now its too little and too late. Reality is hard to swallow. It takes decades for air forces to develop and be good at their skills, it can't be learnt in a month or so, its a gradual process. With geopoliticial happenings, I think it will be difficult to procure foreign fighter jets and the necessary ammo. Who will sell to them? Remember there's moles in their orgs everywhere and the technology secrets can be revealed to "enemy".

The golden takeaway here is: if Iran develops nukes and Mossad and RAW moles are running amok there, we will have big problem.

 

[Nuffle]

Iran claims it has evidence that Israel used Azerbaijan territory/airspace to launch drone attacks against Iran

Iran says it has provided this evidence to Azerbaijan and asked them to open an investigation

The main paths of Israeli fighter jets into Iranian airspace

The vast majority of attacks on Tehran and Karaj were carried out from the direction of the Caspia Sea, after crossing through Azerbaijan.

The attacks on Tabriz and surroundings were carried out by entering Iran through northern Iraq.

The attacks on Khorammabad and Kermanshah were carried out largely from Iraqi territory due to their proximity to the border.

Lastly, the attacks on Esfahan, Natanz, Arak and surrounding areas were carried out by entering Iran through a weakened air defense corridor. We know the jets were close to Esfahan (therefore inside Iran) because they used short-range Spice-1000 bombs.
@Middle_East_Spectator

This accusation here? It actually makes sense.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Hypocrite Israel-Backer Erdogan after Iranian defensive move:

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[mangekyo]

Every NATO installation in Türkiye has received government approval only if it was advantageous for Türkiye itself.
That radar system located in Eastern Türkiye provides data for our military.
If Türkiye can prevent the US from using its land and airspace to halt their invasion of Iraq, it clearly indicates that our NATO membership is based on our own choice.

In contrast to Iran, Türkiye has opposed the US and NATO's invasion and devastation of Iraq.
Tehran, however, assisted the Americans.
You also destroyed Syria by denying the people the opportunity to choose their leader freely because the outcome would have not been to your liking.

Currently, the Western world utilizes Iraqi and Syrian airspace to attack and kill your own citizens.
What goes around, comes around, brother.

Ultimately, you brought this upon yourself.
The unfortunate part is that you are unable to recognize this which means you are bound to repeat your mistakes.

You Turks are honestly the most two-faced people on earth. You chant about Muslim unity while literally fueling Israel’s genocide in Gaza.

You pretend to champion Sunnis but you installed Al Qaeda in Syria and armed them to gas Syrians. You commit every kind of atrocity by proxy, then cry wolf and scream about Iran creating a Shia empire when they build resistance forces.

At least Iran’s “Shia empire” actually benefits Muslims by fighting Israel. What do your mercenaries do? Normalize with Israel?

Tell me why was Turkey so eager to cut off the Syrian land route? What benefit does an Al Qaeda run government in Syria, ready to shake hands with Israel, bring to your precious “Sunni cause”?

Your whole foreign policy is about reviving some Ottoman wet dream. And you’re doing Zionist and Western dirty work to get closer to it.

Honestly? Zionists are better than you. At least they don’t pretend they’re your brothers while stabbing you in the back.

 

[ShapurII]

My friend. I have been a researcher through out my adult life. There is no credible evidence of Iran having an implosion device, or for that matter gun-barrel. There are two types of data available on AMAD project. One is by IAEA, which says all things are "iffy" and the other is Netanyahu's propaganda. & since Iran's entire nuclear programme is based on uranium enrichment, for which gun-barrel not merely relatively easier but efficient mean also, I do not see why Iran would ever develop implosion device, unless it has plans to transition to plutonium route. But even in that case, without the ability to produce a plutonium core developing implosive device is just about meaningless.

All ballistic missiles are theoretically nuclear capable. That's not a news. Trick is developing nuclear warhead that works.

The IAEA documents aren't "iffy". Some of them are quite solid and are based on evidence by the IAEA inspectors and things that Iran has already acknowledged in 2003/2004, and later in 2015.

You could use any fissile material for the core, the major differences are that the critical mass will be different and phase transitions will be different. You could use even Thorium-232 if you want to, or Uranium-235, or any other element that goes under fission. The theory is the same, the engineering will be different. There's already ample data on uranium phase transitions and hydrodynamics of its compression. The idea of an implosion device with U-235 as its fissile material is not something new. It's been there since the very first day lol

Iran has every component that it needs for warhead delivery. Thermal shielding, MIRV technology, neutron initiators, HMX/RDX explosives. What is missing that you think Iran can't overcome?

 

[ShapurII]

The Armenians want us Turks as partners, not you Iranians!

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It is shocking how distorted the Iranian perspective is.

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Your cherished ancient Armenians are pleading in Europe for the EU to offer Türkiye something significant in exchange for reopening the Turkish-Armenian border. While you continue to maintain hostility towards Azerbaijan and Türkiye for the benefit of Eriwan, your neighbors are seeking a nearly complete economic and geopolitical integration with Ankara.

The harsh reality is that your hybris in assessing foreign and regional relations/developments is typical rather than unusual in Iran. If Ummah/Muslim identitiy should not influence one's choices; if only detached, harsh, cold rationality is the standard for making policy decisions, then why shouldn't Türkiye and Pakistan take advantage of this situation and carve significant portions out of Iran? Because your postings and statements are giving us the vibes that you would do it if the roles were reversed.

You talk about the region and your neighbors as if Iran is somehow this infallible nation that should reign over everybody in region.

If this war isn't a reality check then nobody can help you.

Wow! A video of Pashinyan in some post on reddit and a picture of Turkish and Armenian flags next to each other by some Turkish person on Twitter are certainly such strong proofs of geopolitical relations. How can I argue with such an intelligent post? I'm speechless.

 

[Lulldapull]

Our national Iranian identity is very strong, that's why we had national stability during the aggression. These small terror groups, if they go to far we will invade them from 2 sides (Iraqi and Iranian side) and we'll capture their leaders to hang them in Iran.
You think they can savely attack Iran while having camps in Iraq? You know the story of MEK terrorists in Iraq? their camps got invaded and their members were shot in execution stye. In worse case scenario the Barzani clan will not be save anymore..

We could never think about doing that in our country. A solution like that you know why? Total lack of nationhood. Mofos are all tribal bastards and suck dick instead of solving problems. Everyday we lose our soldiers but nobody cares.

 

[KingQamaR]

True iran maybe can. with a fizzler is a whole lot easier to construct. Real dirty, wrap a missile with uranium and if the wind is blowing, you have a baby Chernobyl.

 

[Abid123]

You guys reckon we will see a nuclear test from IR soon? Has the supreme leader removed his fatwa of them being haram?