Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Qaraca]

No, I didn't. I didn't bring up the genealogy of Azeri or Armenian people. I said both had linguistic and genetic similarities with us Iranians, which is hardly deniable. I didn't say they were closer to us than Anatolian Turks. You're fishing for trouble, constantly going off-topic, touching on sensitive topics on purpose.

But if you do wish to discuss the genealogy of Azeri people, @Emirzad is quite informed on the matter and I'm sure he will be more than happy to discuss this with you on a different thread to a great extent and very fine details.

This is what you wrote:

“Azerbaijan finds herself closer to Turkey than Iran for linguistic reasons and has alienated herself from Iran under Aliyev.”

 

[Eşbah]

The problem is that we believe Turkey's public stances and intentions do not really match. Therefore, it is hard to take your words for granted. Turkey has been constantly violating the sovereignty of Iraq in recent years. So, it's hard to believe that Turkey did not want Iraq to fall.

*** The AN/TPY-2 radar is definitely aimed at Iran's ballistic missiles as part of the early-warning system for THAAD. You do not have the full THAAD system to use it for your own protection, so it is obvious who is benefiting from this.


In contrast to Iran, Turkey has violated the Iraqi sovereignty by establishing military bases in the northern territory of Iraq. You are an invading force in Iraq, in violation of international law.


You destroyed Syria by supporting a NATO-instigated civil war that had no purpose but to install an Israel-friendly regime and we are already seeing this as we speak today. Unfortunately, the Syrians do not see this now because of their hatred for the previous Syrian regime who was admittedly unpopular. They had tried the Assads and they wanted a fresh start. Something that gives them hope about the future, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they are right. People get played all the time, unfortunately. It's all to be seen and time will tell.

Syrian airspace was in no way used to attack or kill our citizens, but good to see that you are happy about Iranian civilians getting killed. You've been exposed. But I do agree that what goes around, comes around. And Turkey may very soon taste this firsthand. Again, time will tell.

No, we have brought this upon ourselves by supporting the Palestinian cause, unlike you who pretend to support the Palestinian cause while behind the scenes you facilitate the Israeli plans for the new Middle East.

I am not pleased about the deaths of Iranians. Please don't misrepresent my words. It is not beneficial for us if Iran were to fall apart.

How can you engage in a discussion with someone who refuses to acknowledge the truth?

Radar information is shared with Türkiye because our air defense is partially integrated with European defense systems. This is a fact.

Why is that? Because no one in Türkiye and the region has faith in Iran. This is your flaw you refuse to accept. This is a fact.

Israel is utilizing Syrian airspace to launch attacks on Iran. This is a fact.

Your cherished Assad ignored your advice at the end of the war when you urged him to consider Türkiye's interests; instead, he opted for Russia. This is a fact.

He also disregarded Turkish help at the onset of the Civil War. This is another fact.

You support Muslim-hating Armenia against fellow Shia Azerbaijan.
You support Marxist ethno terrorists like PKK against fellow Muslim Türkiye.
You attack neighboring Islamic Republic Pakistan because of BLF terror.
You sign trade contracts with Hindutva racists while they're actively attacking your fellow Muslims in Pakistan and Bangladesh.
You undermine Iraq's sovereignty and nationhood with all the proxies that are on your payroll.
You cowardly attack Qatar instead of UAE because you aim at the weak.
You cooperated with NATO during the US-led invasion of Afghanistan.
Do you want me to stop? Do you think that educated Muslims in the Middle East don't see this?


In short:
Iran needs to make a 180° in her foreign policy. If you cannot accept this, you and your nation are definitely lost.

We have exchanged views. Have a nice evening. Bye.

 

[mangekyo]

Studies from Iranian universities, with some Iranians thrown in for good measure. And also same studies who claim Anatolian Turks are close to Greeks?

There are lots of data from Turkishdna and Azerbaijandna, much more than the “studies” you refer to.

Did you look at the link I posted?

I could be wrong here, but I don’t think Harvard, Sanger, Cambridge, Max Planck or Tartu are Iranian universities.

 

[ShapurII]

This is what you wrote:

“Azerbaijan finds herself closer to Turkey than Iran for linguistic reasons and has alienated herself from Iran under Aliyev.”

And that somehow gave you the idea that I was talking about genealogy? I don't see the relevance.

 

[Eşbah]

This is what you wrote:

“Azerbaijan finds herself closer to Turkey than Iran for linguistic reasons and has alienated herself from Iran under Aliyev.”

You are correct. He did mention it first in a rather backhanded manner to provoke you, but still, this is not the appropriate setting to discuss genealogy.

 

[Yommie]

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[Qaraca]

I could be wrong here, but I don’t think Harvard, Sanger, Cambridge, Max Planck or Tartu are Iranian universities.

This is turning into the discussion about supposed “evidence that Israelis launched drones from Azerbaijan”, no evidence was ever posted here. You guys even misquote what is said by Iranian president on its official website, writing things that haven’t been said.

 

[mangekyo]

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[ShapurII]

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No place in Iran uses Indian apps or software. I have never seen an Indian app in all my life in Iran. I have never seen an Indian developer in Iran in all my life. Stop posting unverified stuff please.

 

[mangekyo]

This is turning into the discussion about supposed “evidence that Israelis launched drones from Azerbaijan”, no evidence was ever posted here. You guys even misquote what is said by Iranian president on its official website, writing things that haven’t been said.

You claimed the studies are done by Iranian universities when they clearly are not. I don’t care if you identify as Turkish or Russian or a helicopter. But I just think it’s cringe. It’s like someone pretending to be Japanese because they watch anime.. it’s cringe

 

[koolio]

No place in Iran uses Indian apps or software. I have never seen an Indian app in all my life in Iran. I have never seen an Indian developer in Iran in all my life. Stop posting unverified stuff please.

Well many other sites are reporting the same.

 

[Abid123]

China is pretty much part of the West

Your own leader Putin refused to help Iran because "Israel is almost a Russian-speaking country". And you’re trying to lecture us about who’s aligned with the West? Russia bends over backwards for Tel Aviv while pretending to be anti-West.

 

[koolio]

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[ShapurII]

I am not pleased about the deaths of Iranians. Please don't misrepresent my words. It is not beneficial for us if Iran were to fall apart.

How can you engage in a discussion with someone who refuses to acknowledge the truth?

Radar information is shared with Türkiye because our air defense is partially integrated with European defense systems. This is a fact.

Why is that? Because no one in Türkiye and the region has faith in Iran. This is your flaw you refuse to accept. This is a fact.

Israel is utilizing Syrian airspace to launch attacks on Iran. This is a fact.

Your cherished Assad ignored your advice at the end of the war when you urged him to consider Türkiye's interests; instead, he opted for Russia. This is a fact.

He also disregarded Turkish help at the onset of the Civil War. This is another fact.

You support Muslim-hating Armenia against fellow Shia Azerbaijan.
You support Marxist ethno terrorists like PKK against fellow Muslim Türkiye.
You attack neighboring Islamic Republic Pakistan because of BLF terror.
You sign trade contracts with Hindutva racists while they're actively attacking your fellow Muslims in Pakistan and Bangladesh.
You undermine Iraq's sovereignty and nationhood with all the proxies that are on your payroll.
You cowardly attack Qatar instead of UAE because you aim at the weak.
You cooperated with NATO during the US-led invasion of Afghanistan.
Do you want me to stop? Do you think that educated Muslims in the Middle East don't see this?


In short:
Iran needs to make a 180° in her foreign policy. If you cannot accept this, you and your nation are definitely lost.

We have exchanged views. Have a nice evening. Bye.

You like facts, don't you?

1. Fact is that you indeed cherished the idea of Iranian civilians being killed as "what goes around, comes around" and you were exposed.
2. Fact is that Turkey does not have a friendly reason to host an AN/TPY-2 radar in her territory because it doesn't have the entire THAAD system to defend herself. Turkey is sharing this data with the US and Israel to track Iranian ballistic missiles and protect Israel from us.
3. Fact is that Turkey is in violation of international law and is an invading force in Iraq as we speak.
4. Fact is that you came here and posted a news from PJAK (i.e. PKK) that nobody in Iran had even heard about it before.
5. Fact is that Erdogan said he would never normalize Turkey's relations with Israel after the Mavi Marmara incident, but you ended up shaking hands with Israelis and you now have deep strategic ties with Israel.
6. Fact is that Turkey has installed an Al-Qaeda affiliated puppet in Syria who is signing a deal with Israel as we speak.
7. Fact is that Turkey has ongoing relations with Israel while Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza. Even Ireland wants to stop Israeli imports, but not Turkey.
8. Fact is that you want to undermine Iran's national security and the best example of this is your attempt to start a TV channel for propaganda against Iran, according to your own official statement

Have a good night.

 

[ShapurII]

Well many other sites are reporting the same.

They're all non-mainstream media. Probably mostly Pakistani/Turkish/Indian websites.

Every piece of customized developed software used in Iran has been developed by Iranian companies. We do not have a shortage of software developers, we have an abundance of top-notch software developers and engineers in Iran.