Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Cash gk]

Don't underestimate me. Or be condescending.

The whole situation with Libya and the overthrow of Ghadaffi along with the Arab Spring were a creation of the Obama Administration and implemented by Hillary Clinton to further destabilize the Middle East. Do not doubt me on this.

You have no idea what you're talking about. The whole situation started after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. It was a long-term plan to dismantle and occupy the Muslim world over the next 150 years. The first step was to destroy Muslim unity, divide them into nationalities and tribes, and then eliminate them one by one. Look at the last 25 years. how many Muslim countries have been destroyed? This is part of a larger plan. Trump, Obama, Biden, Netanyahu. they’re all following the same scrip

 

[Watandar]

I think someone is giving the wrong advice to the Iranian Government. If all the signals are true - they are likely to commit a critical error - lets hope it doesn't happen.

What do you think Iranians are going to do ? I am confused as everything they are doing seems half-measures. Their most successful card is the missile strikes against Israel which are causing tremendous pain, yet they have backed off from that too.

 

[sharreman10]

I think someone is giving the wrong advice to the Iranian Government. If all the signals are true - they are likely to commit a critical error - lets hope it doesn't happen.

What are you talking about? More info please.

 

[Olympus81]

The Americans are vacating their air bases. Could this be an off-ramp Americans and the entity want to give to Iranians to fire at the bases and call a ceasefire?

Sincerely hope Iran takes it, not before taking out some more entity’s sites.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Are you saying even Arab Spring was a Western plot ? I am doubtful of that as the Arab Spring tried to overthrow the Western collaborators who have been doing its bidding for literally the fifth generation now. Lets take Egypt, there was a revolution that removed Hosni Mubarak, but a year later when Egyptian army did a coup and removed Mohammed Morsi, nobody in the West complained. When Mr Morsi died few years later in Egyptian prison, nobody in West complained either. I think Arab spring was an indigenous movement that was crushed by the Western-supported despots in Mideast.

Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Breaking: Israeli Military has issued evacuation warnings to the residents of Tehran

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Psychological warfare from a tiny rat. Population should stay and conitinue their life and adapt to War, a new way of living until the war ends.

 

[Liquidator]

Psychological warfare from a tiny rat. Population should stay and conitinue their life and adapt to War, a new way of living until the war ends.

Problem is tiny rat has nukes and the morality of a rat also

 

[RescueRanger]

What are you talking about? More info please.

Next 1/2 days will tell - but Iran will be making a mistake. All the signals show Iran is preparing to strike US interests in the Persian Gulf.

 

[Watandar]

Next 1/2 days will tell - but Iran will be making a mistake. All the signals show Iran is preparing to strike US interests in the Persian Gulf.

That would be dumb and falling into a trap that is visible to all !

 

[Brutal.]

You do what you can with what you've got.

So far, Iran hasn't demonstrated it can put 100 missiles in the air at the same time.

Maybe they have the launchers to do so. Or maybe not. But the fact remains: Iran hasn't proven it is capable of doing so.

If I'm not wrong Iran launched 200 missiles the first day. The interception rate by israel at that time was high so very few impacts. Now the interception rate is pretty low.

 

[Nevsky]

The only way to come back stronger is a deep military cooperation with Pakistan and China

Russia should be thrown in the toilet, they are themselves contaminated with zionism, they can't deliver the most basic weapons to Iran

I believe nor you, nor most of the users here understand the core of the problem you have. The idea of "cooperation" is a mistake in your situation. When you have to deal with Israel you have to deal with the whole of the West. Buying 500 fighter jets from China(which of course is absolutely impossible, the Chinese will never ever sell you something that put their trade with the West in danger)dosent work for you. Nor the idea of buying AD systems. Everything will be destroyed if not in a few days, than in a few weeks. You need to produce everything by yourself, you need a closed cycle of everything. And you dont have it, you dont have the resources, you dont have the strategic depth to fight a conventional war against the Western military machine. There was only one country and a system that maybe it was able to go toe to toe vs the West, but its long time gone.

Second of all, you do not understand what China is. Pakistan - China cooperation is not gonna work for you, nor for anyone who try to fight the Western war machine. China is pretty much part of the West. China benefits from the Western wars. It gives them a chance to blackmail the countries that the West is sanctioning, they are conquering markets and buying cheap oil from them. But. Pakistan is just a tool for containing India, noone really cares what China and Pakistan do. But if you add here Iran or Russia for example its a whole different picture. The Chinese wont move their fingers if theres a minimal chance to be sanctioned by the West. They wont to anything that puts their trade with the West in danger, forget about it.

The only way for you to cooperate with China is to become completely irrelevant in the eyes of the US and Israel. Which in your case it probably means a regime change, Western countries all around your oil and mineral recourses and a pro Western government. But than again, this cooperation will be done with the West, not with China.

 

[Shazam256]

Netanyahu is performing air campaign in Iran just like like how it was done on Gaza. Hamas is still active.

But enough is enough. Will these aerial bombings on Iran ever go anywhere or achieve anything long term?

So far it seems people of Iran are more united than ever.

 

[sharreman10]

Next 1/2 days will tell - but Iran will be making a mistake. All the signals show Iran is preparing to strike US interests in the Persian Gulf.

I think that’s exactly what they want, for the US to invade with ground troops. It’s the only way the regime can truly unite the population and win a war. This is also Israel’s goal, to get the US to invade Iran and eliminate the Iranian threat, at least temporarily through war.

 

[SolarWarden]

Sure - but are the Americans prepared to go after the new locations ?

That is not a US problem anymore. Fordow was the place it needed to enrich Uranium to make bombs and that is out of service. What they have now or whatever they got out is not going to make a bomb. Iran spent years and a lot of money to built this facility. There's no hiding from US ISR and Israeli ISR, hell there's no hiding from commercial SATs, building a facility to enrich uranium it is massive and so is its signature.

Iran right now has the ability to assemble 1-2 low yield bombs and their components are likely spread out all over Iran and now that is all they will have for the foreseeable future is the 1-2 bombs they can assemble. Fordow was the plant that was going to make Iran a nuke power like North Korea and Pakistan.

 

[Mero]

High oil prices, high precious metal prices are bad for the American Empire. That is how Iran should later respond - Strait of Hormuz.

China can destroy the dollar empire by having Russia and much of the global south go to a BRICS gold currency that never materialized, not sure if the Chinese suggested it at BRICS meetings. If China and Russia want to save Iran from the US, redirect the trouble with Washington from Iran to China and Russia attacking the dollar with a BRICS gold that Iran is part of.

The Roman Empire ended in part due to inflation and debasement. Trump is using bitcoin to defeat gold and silver because if you ask AI, 40-50% of bitcoin are owned by Americans, American government, American institutions and wall street holdings. It is why bitcoin dropped over the weekend, because bitcoin is tied to the success of the American Empire, uncertainty over Iran is having Trump with pants down, so bitcoin drops. As Trump gets victories, bitcoin goes up. As Trump gets failures, gold and silver go up. Though Washington and bankers have a many hundreds of billions or more warchest in physical gold to sell to hammer the price of gold if BRICS makes a move on the dollar by going to gold.

Donald Trump warns Brics: 'Say goodbye to America' if US dollar is replaced​

https://www.business-standard.com/world-news/trump-brics-us-dollar-warning-100-percent-tariffs-125013100263_1.html

Donald Trump threatens 100% tariff on countries that turn away from the dollar​

Donald Trump threatens 100% tariff on countries that turn away from the dollar | Fortune

“You leave the dollar and you’re not doing business with the United States because we are going to put a 100% tariff on your goods."

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Trump is an imperialist warmonger, using economic warfare as part of that warmongering.

If the dollar collapses before Trump goes to a crypto backed dollar, the US would be a has been, as the global economy rejected the US and went to gold and silver. Trump wants war to perhaps bring a crypto currency for the US.

If Iran wants to close the straits to oil tankers only, that could be a starting point. Then move onto natural gas. Iran should close the straits after getting low on long range missiles, so Iran has new leverage. Keep pounding Israel until then.

When trump cries or praises adversaries, it means trump is vulnerable. Though Iran needs substantial support of military aid and/or a BRICS gold currency to sustain battling Trump.

Trump seeks to only obliterate enemies. Nations and peoples must walk away from the MAGA Anglo-American Empire. Iran has to be cautious. If China, Russia and Iran focus on defeating American aggression, not Finland or Azerbaijan, Trump the bully can perhaps be stopped.