Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Irfan Baloch]

Don’t be ridiculous. There is nothing to negotiate.

Bilateral ceasefire, sure. But don’t be delusional into thinking there can be any long term deal negotiated.

true, the ceasefire according to western definition is Iran doesn't retaliate to Israeli and American bombings that will continue and announce the dissolution of the government and its surrender.

 

[PakistanLVR]

The problem is if Iran sues for a ceasefire or accepts it, they will not stop. They have literally shown over the last 36 years going back to 1991 that they won't stop anyone stands up to them. I predicated two years ago when Iran made fool out of itself by meekly attacking the entity after getting its embassy bombed. That moment is when I knew they will attack Iran because Iranians for whatever reason played by the rules while her enemies used every dirty trick in the book. I do not know how this will end but do understand that Iran is will be targeted no matter is a ceasefire is signed. This is total war.

Best bet is to bury the foolish Persian pride and bring China into the fold which will automatically include Pakistan. If Iran falls, Pakistan is next due to having nukes and being a staunch Chinese ally. China will be walled off the resources of the middle east. They will kill three birds with one stone.
Additionally, this is a fight between two systems - each one cannot sustain itself if the other one becomes acceptable. Pushing degeneracy and debauchery is part of the plan.

Due to the prevalent social issues in the West, many of their men are going to South East Asia and Latin America to look for a traditional wife. What it is in reality is access to underprivileged women for easy access to sex.

These guys are known as passport bros. They have plans for Iran too, to "liberate" Iranian Muslim women.

One of the tactics they use is "convert" to Islam for the sake of marriage. Everyone knows its bulls*it including the girl and her family but its happening. They're using Islamic principles against Muslims.

 

[Watandar]

saw a picture of some Iranian military personnel sitting with Quran on their heads well that gesture is very heartwarming but its not going to defeat Israel and solve their defenseless skies as well as constant targeting of their scientists and military personnel.

That was probably a religious ceremony they were taking part in during Ramzan. I dont think you can draw too many conclusions from it.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Yeah I know lol but seriously someone needs to tell grandpa to get off twitter and actually make great because honestly I haven’t seen anything good come out of this administration yet and mean at all just fyi not a democrat or republican I don’t vote so I don’t have any say who is in office just saying the Pres is a total jackass

Felt like I had to add something definitely believe in alternative fuels we definitely as a world need to go green

It's all bukkake theater I'm afraid.

 

[pashtunkoum]

the way I see it, if regime change plan does not go successful..

next regime will be Pak (IR)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

try harder!

They already successfully changed the regime in Pakistan. Unlike Iranians we can be easily bought.

 

[Cash gk]

I mean no disrespect to anyone because its just a frustration that if the knee jerk decision making is going to be done on religious and emotional grounds by people who have zero technical and tactical know how then there is no doubt Iran gives too many avenues to its enemies to exploit and install spies and assassins among its ranks.

saw a picture of some Iranian military personnel sitting with Quran on their heads well that gesture is very heartwarming but its not going to defeat Israel and solve their defenseless skies as well as constant targeting of their scientists and military personnel.

It seems you don't have any idea. Can you explain how Api work

 

[Irfan Baloch]

the way I see it, if regime change plan does not go successful..

next regime will be Pak (IR)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

try harder!

there is no NEXT, Pakistan is already targeted, BLA attacks are brazen and at larger scale. they chose places in the vastness of Baluchistan that are remote and kill any government officials , loot the shops and offices, execute anyone not local . burn down buildings make vides and escape.

 

[Shags101]

The attack on US assets will achieve great damage, as they are poorly defended, some THAAD and Patriot batteries won't be able to do crap besides intercepting some SRBMs

Compared to Israel, US bases are poorly defended

Compared to Israel America has a lot more resources to inflict devastation to Iran we saw that in Afghanistan and Iraq doesn’t mean America will come out on top but Iranians as a whole will suffer

 

[Bengal71]

offtopic- but isnt this the same clown that claims the Quran has mistakes

I have listened to many of his lectures in the distant past, don't agree with many things he says but I never came across a lecture where he said Quran has mistakes. Are you able to give me a link?

 

[SteppeWolff]

I think Iran should now accept the cease fire with demands of lifting sanctions on them and then go for full conventional deterrence with Air defence, Air force and Navy modernisation. China can help in this regard. Meanwhile in secrecy they can run their nuclear program. Buy the time and develop and try next time

Sounds all fine and dandy in theory but Western countries would never let that happen. All of these countries are terrorist imperial states hiding under the garb of modernity and human rights. They are aiming for complete dismantling of Iran and after that, its Turkiye and Pakistan in the long term. Iran needs to establish deterrence otherwise there's no hope for them. West has smelled blood and now they wont back down.

 

[Bengal71]

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This was a no brainer from the get go. I don't understand how a scholar like Khamenei who studied Quran can issue a fatawa banning nuclear weapons.

 

[onlinpunit]

And so far 0 anti-regime "peaceful protest freedom fighters" in Iran

People are more united than ever against Israel and the US, who violated Iranian sovereignty

I am not saying that israel will be successful in their quest. But targeting prison, Basij HQ.etc shows what they are trying to do.

 

[Cash gk]

They already successfully changed the regime in Pakistan. Unlike Iranians we can be easily bought.

Next number is Pakistan brother they will come after Pakistan. There is no question about it. Iran is not fighting for themselves. They are fighting for Pakistan as well. Asim munier is so stupid. The man is going to bring so much misery for Pakistan. He has been used

 

[Watandar]

I am not saying that israel will be successful in their quest. But targeting prison, Basij HQ.etc shows what they are trying to do.

They are trying to weaken the security structure in the theory that Iranian people will rise up if they feel less afraid.

 

[Watandar]

Next number is Pakistan brother they will come after Pakistan. There is no question about it. Iran is not fighting for themselves. They are fighting for Pakistan as well

in the short term they are not coming after Pakistan if it obeys the orders issued during Mr Trump's lunch with Asim Munir : Do not assist Iran in this war we are launching and also in the long term, do not be Iran's conduit to China post-war.

In the long term West/India are coming for Pakistan anyway. I mean in next 20-25 years. They will not tolerate any Muslim country with nukes/delivery systems. Back to OT.