Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Haz]

So what’s the realistic option when even the Iranian ally nations of China and Russia haven’t done much to protect Iran from US / Israel attacks against its sovereign territory?

I don't know what you mean exactly, are you talking about in terms of real action plan? I certainly have no idea, I can't possibly know what their capabilities are like or how critical is the current state of their military/internal security. From an outsider point of view, continue attacking Israel for a while, degrade critical infrastructure like economic, energy, military sites, to the point where there is real lasting pain, and then sign a ceasefire agreement, after its clear the stalemate will last indefinitely, no side will win from this outright imo.

Iran needs to establish deterrence at the very least and ensure Israel will think twice before ever thinking of pulling off such a stunt again. But at the end of the day, in regards to your initial message, no one should have any issue calling out European powers given their clear hostility towards IRI, they were never, and will never be their allies.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

I think Iran should now accept the cease fire with demands of lifting sanctions on them and then go for full conventional deterrence with Air defence, Air force and Navy modernisation. China can help in this regard. Meanwhile in secrecy they can run their nuclear program. Buy the time and develop and try next time

 

[Ali_Baba]

If Iran attacks USA bases in retaliation, will this bring in NATO to the Middle East?

No. The attack has to be on USA sovereign terrority/land for Article 5. So, as long as Iran stays away from Embassies, then article 5 does not apply.

 

[Cash gk]

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that cannot be done without ground intelligence...

even I can tell!!!!!!

IR need to do their homework!

They have to fix American and Israeli satellites

 

[onlinpunit]

The nature of targets since last two days indicates that as of now the israel attack is all about regime change. For them Their primary objective is done with US joining the bombing.

 

[tsunset]

I think Iran should now accept cease fire with demands of lifting sanctions on them and then go for full conventional deterrence with Air force and Navy modernisation. China can help in this regard. Meanwhile in secrecy they can run their nuclear program as well

The only way to come back stronger is a deep military cooperation with Pakistan and China

Russia should be thrown in the toilet, they are themselves contaminated with zionism, they can't deliver the most basic weapons to Iran

 

[Shags101]

Like I said earlier - they are wanting to wrap this up now.

That’s if they are attacking Tehran could be just another ploy to have the Iranians to busy looking at Tehran while the Israelis are going somewhere else I think the end game is if the Israelis either get their hands on the uranium or blow it up no matter what consequences may be for neighboring countries or Iran if they do blow it up

 

[tsunset]

The nature of targets since last two days indicates that as of now the israel attack is all about regime change. For them Their primary objective is done with US joining the bombing.

And so far 0 anti-regime "peaceful protest freedom fighters" in Iran

People are more united than ever against Israel and the US, who violated Iranian sovereignty

 

[RescueRanger]

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[tower9]

I think Iran should now accept cease fire with demands of lifting sanctions on them and then go for full conventional deterrence with Air force and Navy modernisation. China can help in this regard. Meanwhile in secrecy they can run their nuclear program as well

Don’t be ridiculous. There is nothing to negotiate.

Bilateral ceasefire, sure. But don’t be delusional into thinking there can be any long term deal negotiated.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

The only way to come back stronger is a deep military cooperation with Pakistan and China

Russia should be thrown in the toilet, they are themselves contaminated with zionism, they can't deliver the most basic weapons to Iran

I agree but for now i think they must save themself with the only important demand that is to lift the sanctions on iran

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Omg ! Till date they were using GPS for military role ? Not even GLONASS ? And then they wonder how Israel/ USA was able to pick up their assets so easily..

I mean no disrespect to anyone because its just a frustration that if the knee jerk decision making is going to be done on religious and emotional grounds by people who have zero technical and tactical know how then there is no doubt Iran gives too many avenues to its enemies to exploit and install spies and assassins among its ranks.

saw a picture of some Iranian military personnel sitting with Quran on their heads well that gesture is very heartwarming but its not going to defeat Israel and solve their defenseless skies as well as constant targeting of their scientists and military personnel.

 

[tsunset]

The attack on US assets will achieve great damage, as they are poorly defended, some THAAD and Patriot batteries won't be able to do crap besides intercepting some SRBMs

Compared to Israel, US bases are poorly defended

 

[Forsvaret]

Nevertheless, if a nation has already interfered in the internal affairs of another, then there is little surprise that when revolution finally occurs, as it did in 1979, that the nation interfering will be immediately turned against by those now in power.

If this has indeed occurred, would it mean that both countries have to be "locked" in a state of war / conflict endlessly? How many times Egypt and Jordan have gone to war against Israel, yet they’re now living side by side since signing of the peace treaties in 1977 and 1994 respectively.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

The nature of targets since last two days indicates that as of now the israel attack is all about regime change. For them Their primary objective is done with US joining the bombing.

the way I see it, if regime change plan does not go successful..

next regime will be Pak (IR)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

try harder!